frankie: the days of REAL military surplus is a thing of the past...well at least here in arizona....the good ol' smell of cigar and canvas is gone forever!!!...anymore my friend what you'll find is cheap china, tiawan, japan knockoff's ,cheap copys of hard to find military kit..these items are the main cause of kit failure in the field, and often blamed as "real surplus" by people that do'nt know the differance... .be very wary of the type of military kit you buy from a so called "surplus stores" ...you have been warned......by the way most euro gear is a good deal.... vince g. 11b infantry......