The details are still a bit sketchy on it Jim. Plus, it is very instinctive to pull something out or to get away from the pain source. If it was instinct that did it, it was probably because he knew that it was venomous and was trying to minimize the delivery of the fish venom - he was no dummy. I'll wait to see what the autopsy and video show the coroner. So far I've not heard of him bleeding out. The initial report is that he went into cardiac arrest within a minute of being stung.