Excellent point and it's very well taken. And when you were describing the ways you carry EDC, it reminded me of things I've read about ninja practices. The concept of "hiding in plain sight", not only for the ninja him or herself, but also for their equipment. The shuriken (throwing blades, stars, spikes, etc.) were originally carpenter's tools. It was not unusual for someone to be carrying carpenter's tools, just like it not unusual to be carrying something that looks like a CD case today. I think versatility is at the heart of the ETS mindset and I thank you Christina for stating things in a way that clarified this concept for me <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />