Yep, I'd say we're on the same path here. I'd heard that not all the 9mm ammo used in the 88 shootout was subsonic, but that was a while ago, and timelines fade and merge after a while. I'd heard for a long time the 357 mag with the 125 grain loads were statistically the most effective manstoppers in a handgun, and that only in the past couple decades has the 45 overtaken that load due to the more modern hp configurations. In any case, I would prefer either to any 9mm auto loading out there for self defense, but that's just my tastes. Given the comparisons we've made, I still consider the 40 S&W to be superior to the 9mm.