I have just received my ECW Polartec fleece overalls. They are ARMY surplus and they are very warm, comfortable, not as itchy as wool - and they were inexpensive. $24.95 (on E-bay). They are supposed to be worn under Gortex however, as they are fleece and fleece is "fashionable" these days, I wore them to the store and nobody gave me a second glance. It looked like a set of ski bibs (except fuzzy). They are supported by suspenders. Worked for me. Just thought I would add my $.02. EPI