I locked the 10 items thread because it started sounding like primers accidentally detonating in a Lee Pocket reloading kit. Are there people who would murder for a 10 item BOB? You betcha, the once romantic idea of riding frieght trains has been replaced with roving gangs who prey on the naieve who hop on with a nice new rucksack. One killed a kid for his sleeping bag. O.K. it's a scary world out there and sometimes I wish I didn't pass on the Thompson with 2 drums a ( supposedly) drunk sailor was offering outside a Seattle bar. So lets start over. Assume people might discretely carry a piece for protection. I always thought one of the advantages of a handgun was the look on a mugger's face when I produced twin 1911s from my PeaCoat. So Rule #1 is not to advertise, here or anywhere else. Handguns aren't staged suprises like uncle Bill's retirement party. Now, lets start over, 10 minimal items, firearms outside the list <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />