Chris, your background is amazing! What percentage of the population works with spring makers?<br><br>You guys seem to have the same kind of experience I am having. I have a Daisy model 25 on which the spring-powered tubular magazine was left 2/3 loaded for perhaps 15 years. It works normally. OTH after a detachable 4 round magazine for a Rem 788 was left loaded 1 year, it's spring took a set & would not work properly. I guess each spring is a law unto itself.<br><br>It looks like the most reliable solution is to go back to revolvers as Chris suggested. That in turn takes us to the fact that revolvers have some springs that are under continuous tension, but they continue to work reliably for decades. Maybe the key is that they are not under full tension until the revolver is being operated. That is consistent with some of your experiences. Oh well, at least they always work. <br><br>Thanks for all the info guys.<br><br>John<br>