This is a some thread. Lets please measure our remarks and not get any more hair pulled out or feathers ruffled ( down jackets are expensive.) James, don't be angry. Modern society has lost meaningfull "rites of passage." We have getting a driver's license or having the first legal sip of beer: no ritual scarification, secret stories told in the sweatlodge or killing a lion. Maybe thats why we have PSKs, a bit of re franchisement as men ( and women) in self determination. Id rather tell stories in a sauna than get marooned again ;O) As to my getting voted off early? HAH! We'd be having "longmeat" the first night and that show director would be missing. Id drag all the equipment to the native people never mentioned, anounced I was John From ( ask HikerDon to explain) and live the good life!