I've posted before that the irony of longterm survival sites is their short online survival. It's a pretty expansive subject. The 'homesteading' phenomenon of the 70s created a cottage industry of log and timberframing schools, Lehmans Hardware saw their customer base grow beyond Amish families and organic and heirloom seed growers found a market . The books are sadly mostly OOP, but RODALE PRESS was noted for short runs of fascinating titles. As noted, it's a fine line ( about a mule plow wide actually) between survival and some escapist alternate lifestyle. but then again, with gasoline prices I may be duct taping PVC shafts to my car, punching out the wiindshield and hitching my horse to the assembly <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />