Matrix, isn't that a Sci-Fi movie? The forum admin got lost in a cyber maze and died clutching an Altoid tin? I like the idea. As I posted earlier, Doug is very busy travelling to seminars etc. I want to run this by him. I would also like to encourage any efforts to get more women and children active on the forum. We have the active members in Scouting and There is the "Clutch a Tree" link.