Have two of the Mossberg 500's as my self-defense/survival guns, one with a pistol grip for short range and one with a folding stock/pistol grip for longer range. Love the mossbergs and have had them since the late 70's. Shot the Remington during Security training, but like the mossbergs better, plus they were less expensive than the Remington's. Can't beat your basic 12 gauge for intimidation factor.