Thanks; it's always interesting to hear divergent views . The Vic Spirit is the only multitool I know of with a blunt-ended sheeps-foot blade. The blade on the CS4 I actually carry is rather more pointy than I'd like near my skin. Ditto the RSK. If I have to use a reaonable amount of force, I'd prefer scissors. Especially if it is some stranger about to use it on me <img src="/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />

The CS4 has both scissors and awl (and wood saw). The main thing you give up is the file/metal saw.