The thread got me wondering about primitive fire starting in less arid regions:

https://www.perfectdayshawaii.com/carol-silva-fire/#.XAAGadtKjmE

Someday I'd like to visit Hawaii!!! Maybe I should start a GoFundMe page??!!

While I find primitive fire starting VERY interesting, to me it takes so much skill and knowledge of local woods that I don't consider it so much a survival skill. Kudos to those who can do that in-field!!

Today it is just seems so much easier and "safer" to carry a lighter and a ferro rod as backup.