** "Is there a "First Place" in nuclear war? Or is that the guy who loses the least... Rhetorical question."

Good question.
Well I'll say this - there won't be a "first place" if the N. Koreans do actually succeed in detonating a nuclear bomb in the skies over the US mainland. We would survive as a nation, certainly, but it would shatter our belief about American invulnerability. I guess this is a part of the "gamble" that the Pentagon must weigh up ... what chance is there that this could happen?

** Given the destructive power available, would anyone "win"?
There could be a lot of losers in Asia, that's for sure. Could the US stop N. Korea without using nuclear weapons - and without major losses to S. Korea? You tell me. It's the $64,000 question.

Back to my original question.
Where are our Civil Defense plans??