I would at least Partially Differ, in that Guns, Beef or Other Foods in a Can, and even Umbrellas in the Proper Sense, -Can Be and Often Are!, -Very Relevant to Survival! Our Earth Turning Sour on Us!, and Survival Considerations Thereof!, -Are also Very Co-Relevant! Still, in a Larger Sense I can Still See How a Lot of this would be More Suitable to the Campfire. <img src="images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> [color:"black"] [/color] [email]joblot[/email]