Yeah, I hear you Tracker. I think practicing a skill like this will make you better at parallel skills. I don't doubt an expert could do it better. <br><br>I did think it to be interesting what the teacher said about his students though. A group of people who could easily acomplish the task in a class type senario went without fire for a week in the wild.<br><br>Lately I've been starting fires in my backyard with a fresnel lens. There has always been a bit of pyro in me I guess.The bow and drill method is definitly a more primative and satisfying way to do it.