I do agree with you on the point of revamping these tools with a new look and charging double the price. Seems mad to me. However I do like the juice line. Not the look, but the layout. They are espessially good for the UK where we are not allowed to carry blades over 3" and they cannot lock, in this respect the juice series are ideal. I also love the tools on the Kf4, perfect for me. However it got stolen so i've got a supertool 200 in the post (ssshhh <img src="images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />)