Boatman, Funny you should mention the Altoid tins, in the prototypes section out in the shop is an entire master pattern set for a folder in an Altoids tin. All the knives I've been doing are kind of on the bigger side of things and it may be a while before I "go small" again. Lot's of great knives on the market now because of the competition for business, buyers are the ones who win. Bill