What if the dealer doesn't accept American Express for anything?

Just kiddin...you're absolutely right, arrive at a price before you tell them how you're gonna pay for it. The problem is that the salespeople are SO good at working things like that into the conversation, you find yourself giving them more info than you planned on.

Same goes for trade ins, establish the value of the trade in before you set the price for the new car.

John E
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JohnE

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comin round
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