if you were referring to my comment that aligator seemed to be worrying he'll be forced into a shelter and at the same time worried he won't be allowed in.

Then that is not what you are claiming I said is it? I'm just pointing out they are contradictory worries. Wether you get knives taken off you or not in shelters I have no idea.

If you are not referring to me; apologies.

And i certainly did not intend any discussion I take part in to be heated. I think Aligator had an Escape and Evasion kit and a Bug out Bag confused. That was not meant as a personal criticism. I wish I had a pound for every time I'd been confused.

Agree with you on governments wanting to keep us frightened. Once you look at what the media and organisations tell us, it is usually aimed at that. So we'll need them.
The Sock