I remember reading someone in our Department of War's assesment of German that was written in 1932. He expected Germany to collapse from internal pressure and bad leadership by 1941.

Oops.

I'm not counting them out. Not by a long shot.
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-IronRaven

When a man dare not speak without malice for fear of giving insult, that is when truth starts to die. Truth is the truest freedom.