Not sure, as soon as I get them I'll post a review, as far as the guyot designs the only problem I see with those is you can put them in a fire, the plastic is sure to melt, unless of course you take the lid and any other plastic off, but then thats why I decided on the one I posted the whole thing can be placed in the fire or on a stove.

As far as the weight goes, if its to heave It will look good sitting next to all my other that I don't carry.....lol
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