I don't know if they are the same or not. If they are, good deal! Only thing I have noticed is that with the fero/mag rods, you can actually have quite a quality difference between them. Some of the ferro rods don't seem to throw sparks as well, others have had a tendency to fall off (they are glued into a channel cut into the magnesium.) I have found these ones from Mag-flint take a beating, and throw a ton of sparks. YMMV