Yes I will second Naro on his opinion. I have a Windmill lighter that didn't perform that well in the water. Than amount of time it took to make it work again was another disapointment. Carry couple of lighters and a zippo, put some matches in your PSK. I mean it's kewl to have this nice cutting jet flame but it's not worth all this cash. I wish I was smarter when I was getting it.<br><br>Matt