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#257213 - 03/05/13 08:39 PM TSA to Allow Pocket Knives On Planes
Michael2 Offline
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"Starting April 25, passengers flying on U.S. flights will be allowed to carry small pocket knives-blades less than 6-centimeters, up to two golf clubs, ski poles, as well as sporting sticks used for hockey, lacrosse, and billiards. Baseball bats will remain on the no-fly list, though wiffle-ball bats and souvenir baseball bats (less than 24-inches long) will be allowed."

http://news.yahoo.com/tsa-allow-pocket-knives-planes-201605201--abc-news-politics.html

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#257214 - 03/05/13 08:48 PM Re: TSA to Allow Pocket Knives On Planes [Re: Michael2]
JBMat Offline
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Edited by chaosmagnet (03/05/13 10:15 PM)
Edit Reason: Inappropriate political commentary

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#257216 - 03/05/13 08:51 PM Re: TSA to Allow Pocket Knives On Planes [Re: Michael2]
jzmtl Offline
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I know there are people who have died from ski pole stabbing.OBut they sort of stabbed themselves after a tumbling fall and extremely bad luck.

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#257217 - 03/05/13 08:52 PM Re: TSA to Allow Pocket Knives On Planes [Re: Michael2]
Russ Offline
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The only non-locking folder I have that qualifies is a Victorinox Swiss Army Classic. Fortunately, I never fly commercial.
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#257220 - 03/05/13 09:46 PM Re: TSA to Allow Pocket Knives On Planes [Re: Michael2]
Denis Offline
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The weird thing is the TSA document that illustrates these changes shows what looks like a standard SAK (something like a hiker ... with the phillips instead of the corkscrew) as an example of an allowed knife. I thought standard SAKs have blade lengths just over 6 cm?

Here's the document: Changes to Prohibited Items List (PIL) - March 2013

The complete list of criteria for allowable knives is:
  • The blade is no longer than 2.36 inches or 6 centimeters in length
  • The blade width is no more than ½ inch at its widest point
  • The knife does not have a locking or fixed blade
  • The knife does not have a molded grip
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#257225 - 03/05/13 10:15 PM Re: TSA to Allow Pocket Knives On Planes [Re: Michael2]
chaosmagnet Offline
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I have been swapping out my Leatherman PS4 for a Style PS when I fly. I'll stop doing that after 4/25, which will be a very small nice change for me.

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#257226 - 03/05/13 10:40 PM Re: TSA to Allow Pocket Knives On Planes [Re: Denis]
Russ Offline
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My SAK Spartan (which I consider to be a standard SAK) has a cutting blade that measures 6 cm to the Ricasso; if you measure from tip to plastic it as specified by TSA, it measures 7 cm. Thanks for playing and thanks for the knife. Have a nice flight. wink

The SAK 3.3 in/84mm size which would include the Cadet has a 2.2"(5.5 cm) blade. That should meet the requirement, but knowing TSA, find one in red plastic.
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#257227 - 03/05/13 10:55 PM Re: TSA to Allow Pocket Knives On Planes [Re: Denis]
haertig Offline
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Registered: 03/13/05
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Quote:
The blade is no longer than 2.36 inches or 6 centimeters in length

I think the toothpick on a SAK is longer than that. You probably need a good 5 inches to penetrate the outer fat layer on the average American.

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The knife does not have a locking or fixed blade

Yeah, wouldn't want to allow any knife that is actually safe to use.

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The knife does not have a molded grip

Pretty much I think they are ALL molded in some way, "injection molding" is pretty common. Except for the hand-carved exotic ones and maybe a few cheap stamped metal ones. I wonder what the point of this requirement is?

Still, this is better than before. But even my itty-bitty SAK is probably still banned, because it includes a fingernail file. Aren't those a no-no?

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#257228 - 03/05/13 10:59 PM Re: TSA to Allow Pocket Knives On Planes [Re: Michael2]
haertig Offline
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Registered: 03/13/05
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...up to two golf clubs, ski poles, as well as sporting sticks used for hockey, lacrosse...

Would those fit under your seat or in the overhead bins to qualify as a carry-on in the first place? Would anyone want to put their expensive golf clubs in an overhead only to have other passengers smash their suitcases in there on top of them? I don't play golf, but those clubs look relatively fragile (if they were to get into a fight with a suitcase) and very expensive.

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#257230 - 03/05/13 11:13 PM Re: TSA to Allow Pocket Knives On Planes [Re: Michael2]
celler Offline
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I wonder how long it will take someone to compile a list of "approved" knives. I need to dig into my sock drawer and see what I have that will pass. It looks designed toward the Victorinox SAK style mini knives. Six cm? Who came up with that? I guess I should be happy that I won't need to file down a 2 inch knife just to make sure some TSA ruler doesn't get itchy.

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