#91186 - 04/15/07 06:55 PM
Re: Gear practice -- the $25 daypack
[Re: bigreddog]
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I'd go for a whistle, $1 fauxton, trash bags, string and water. Maybe a bandanna and a roll of marker tape.
I figure that if he doesn't already have the stuff then he probably isn't into preparedness and wouldn't know how to use it. I wouldn't bother with a knife or fire-starting, for example, or a compass. If he gets lost a little bit, the whistle should get him found again. If he's lost for days, then he needs water and shelter to survive, and markers to make him more visible to search parties. He may need first aid, but again if he's not trained I wouldn't give him more than a bandanna to bind wounds etc.
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#91195 - 04/15/07 09:47 PM
Re: Gear practice -- the $25 daypack
[Re: Brangdon]
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I was thinking the same thing, except that I could have a friend fly up for something else and come see me. They might not have their kit if they flew up with just carry on (no lighters, no knives) and they just might not have expected to go on a hike. That said, I didn't include a knife because I don't see it as vital to survival if they're just spending the night out. Better to give them a blanket then a knife.
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#91196 - 04/15/07 09:56 PM
Re: Gear practice -- the $25 daypack
[Re: Brangdon]
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Registered: 04/10/07
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I think arotc has the best list so far. A bic lighter or two, several one liter water bottles, and some some extra lage garbage bags leapt to my head quickly. I like the idea of the enamel cup, cheap fleece blanket, and hot cocoa. I'd also like to include a box of cookies, some fruit or other snack. All of this would keep us relatively warm, dry, and happy, which I feel are probably the most important aspects to survival. The only thing I'd really like to add, but would probably put the cost above 25$ is a small first aid kit.
Personally, I don't think a flashlight or knife is essential gear on a dayhike. While I like to always keep a knife on me, I think that one could go and survive even a possible overnighter without it. As for the flashlight, while it's very nice to have, I think anything cheap enough to stay under budget probably wouldn't be worth much. Cheap flashlights break even when one doesn't need them. The only potential use I could see would be looking for firewood at night, which I would try to avoid doing anyways. I wouldn't trust one to provide enough light to safely walk through the woods at night. Better to just wait the night out by the fire, sipping cocoa.
I find it interesting that a number of people seem to have the impression that if if the person is coming without anything, that they are not interested in being prepared. Personally, I can think of a number of situations where a person could be left without gear and would have to make up a daypack on the spot. It's happened to me before, where I've flown out to visit someone, my luggage has been lost, and I've been left with nothing but my computer and the cash in my wallet.
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#91197 - 04/15/07 10:28 PM
Re: Gear practice -- the $25 daypack
[Re: hamilton]
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I agree with AROTC's list but I'd replace the flashlight with a chemlight (Cyalume) which are fairly cheap. I would always take a flashlight on a day-hike in case it goes wrong.
My Camelback Mule has a quart bottle of water (bladder was removed), compass, 3 trashbags, 20' paracord, 3 green cyalume chemlights, UK 4AA eLED flashlight, SAK Trekker, small FAK, ferrocerrium rod, Bic lighter and a film cannister w/ tinder. It's lightweight and not at all restrictive.
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#91200 - 04/15/07 10:37 PM
Re: Gear practice -- the $25 daypack
[Re: AROTC]
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If you knew they were flying in, it wouldn't a suprise. I see this as someone who either had a total "duh" moment and forgot thier gear, or a friend (possibly of the appropriate gender) who is wanting a clue, just doesn't know it yet.
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#91201 - 04/15/07 10:38 PM
Re: Gear practice -- the $25 daypack
[Re: Russ]
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This topic has been kinda scary... not because of the responses, they are great... no, the scary thing is realizing I can't even pay for my EDC with $25, let alone what I put in my daypack for a hike. Better make sure my wife never sees this forum!
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#91204 - 04/15/07 10:49 PM
Re: Gear practice -- the $25 daypack
[Re: Be_Prepared]
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The flashlight alone goes over $30 The Camelback was $60 IIRC, fortunately this practice session had an empty pack as a given. $25 is a very restrictive target price.
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#91208 - 04/15/07 11:37 PM
Re: Gear practice -- the $25 daypack
[Re: AROTC]
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Registered: 11/09/06
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I'm thinking of someone visiting. In reality, I wouldn't spend any money, because I already have the spare gear on hand. I don't go hiking or camping with someone that I don't know.
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#91221 - 04/16/07 02:16 AM
Re: Gear practice -- the $25 daypack
[Re: Russ]
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Ha, I didn't think of chem sticks, but I think that'd be a lot better then a flashlight. Cheaper, better signal, and they last longer. Now with the $5 I just saved what to get my friend? Probably first aid stuff, like a triangle bandage.
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