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#83999 - 01/27/07 02:51 AM "Crazy Salt"
Menawa Offline

Registered: 01/23/07
Posts: 20
Ron, I agree that some type of seasoning is nice to have when you must eat survival foods. Mountain men and early explorers always carried their salt block and a few peppercorns. Most "survivalists" only read books and theorize about eating wild foods. Until you've actually tried it, you don't realize how important seasoning can be. I always carry a few bouillon cubes in my PSK or on my person when camping and hiking. I often experiment with scavenged food and have found that a bouillon cube in the pot makes all the difference in the palatibility of minnow chowder, pine needle tea, inner birch bark soup, boiled poke salad, squirrel or wood rat stew, etc. A little "crazy salt" or something similar would be just as useful and can make the difference between being able to get down nourishment or puking.

#84000 - 01/27/07 03:00 AM Re: "Crazy Salt"
Susan Offline

Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 5163
Loc: W. WA
And don't forget the Taco Bell hot sauce packets: small and don't require refrigeration. Always ask for extra.


#84001 - 01/27/07 05:05 AM Flylines and Froglegs
Fallshirmjager Offline

Registered: 02/09/04
Posts: 42
Learning to cast a flyline is a worthwhile skill. Even hard worked fish are suckers for a fly, and a light rod tip kills more fish.
A flyrod works a lot more water, faster, and you can instantly drop a fly to a rising fish, rather than reel in, cast, and crank repeatedly.
A roll cast or a sidearm cast will lightly work a lure under overhanging limbs and banks, and the beauty of it all, is that you don't actually need a flyrod.
Line, leader, tippet and fly can be cast by hand, (well, by arm), and you can make your own flies and lures out of almost anything.

My No.1 protein choice in the wild, is froglegs.
Walk along any pond, stream, swamp edge, creek bank, feeder ditch, and you'll find frogs. Tie a line to a pole, with a hook on the end. Dap a hook off Mr. Bullfrog's nose, and he'll bite. Haul him up to you, and you now have tasty legs, and lots of guts as bait for bank lines and trot lines, and bait for snares and deadfalls on dry land.

Yes, they do kinda taste like chicken, incredibly sweet, tender chicken.

#84002 - 01/27/07 05:44 AM Re: Fishing for food
ironraven Offline
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Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 09/08/05
Posts: 4642
Loc: Vermont
Why do you think I carry both salt and chili powder in my ditch kit, and in it's big brother BOB, I"ve got those, plus peper, mesquite shak on, garlic powder, lemon juice crytals and bullion/ramen seasoning packets? Venison, bear, those are great. Woodchuck, muskrat, fisher, fishy duck, those all taste like *censored*- if I thought the bulk was worthwhile, I'dd add fried onions (the canned kind) and shelf stablized bacon bits for that kind of eating.

When a man dare not speak without malice for fear of giving insult, that is when truth starts to die. Truth is the truest freedom.

#84003 - 01/27/07 09:47 AM Re: Flylines and Froglegs
gunsmith Offline

Registered: 03/16/06
Posts: 35
Loc: Co.'Douglas 80125
Dude ! Fly fishinf withour a rod ! What a concept!!

I gotta try that,and soon..

Oh ,btw for the frogs, a bit of red cellophane is THE stuff
Never been lost, But I've been "Powerfull confused"

#84004 - 01/27/07 02:50 PM Re: Flylines and Froglegs
MOAlan Offline

Registered: 12/31/06
Posts: 14
Loc: central Missouri
Frogs and turtles were some of the other critters I consider for food without having to make any noise. It is also something I have grown up doing. There are hundreds of lakes, streams and the Missouri River all within my buggout area.

As I get older and my eyesight gets a bit worse, seeing through sights or even a scopes takes a bit more work while fishing or gigging can be done even if something happened to my glasses.

Your point about using the guts for bait afterwards is excellent. I don't even consider that when I fish most of the time, I like the sport of fishing then.

In a survival situation, changing my mindset may be the biggest challenge of all.

#84005 - 01/27/07 06:53 PM Re: Fishing for food
Misanthrope Offline

Registered: 09/08/05
Posts: 156
Loc: Chicago burbs
I know this sounds ridiculous, but check the local restrictions before you pack a fishing kit.

I have previously had a gill net confiscated by game wardens while on a fishing trip. The net was unopened and packed in a survival kit. I managed to talk my way our of a ticket, but was surprised by the reaction of the game wardens. Gill nets, speed hooks, premade snares, scent baits, and other items may be illegal to simply possess in certain jurisdictions. Possession of fishing tackle without the requisite license can also result in confiscation and fines.

A bored game warden could have a field day with your bob.

I hear voices....And they don't like you.

#84006 - 01/27/07 08:10 PM Re: Flylines and Froglegs
Fallshirmjager Offline

Registered: 02/09/04
Posts: 42
Tie a length of yarn to a stick, to practice indoors.
As you get smoother, choke up on the stick and/or lengthen the yarn.
It also helps your flyrod casting rhythm.

/and amuses the cat.

#84007 - 01/27/07 11:37 PM Re: Fishing for food
Stu Offline
I am not a P.P.o.W.
Old Hand

Registered: 05/16/05
Posts: 1058
Loc: Finger Lakes of NY State
I think you can get some very small packages of bacon bits at some fast food places, for use on salads. I've a few in my kit.
Our most important survival tool is our brain, and for many, that tool is way underused! SBRaider
Head Cat Herder

#84008 - 01/27/07 11:58 PM Re: Fishing for food
OldBaldGuy Offline

Registered: 09/30/01
Posts: 5695
Loc: Former AFB in CA, recouping fr...
Fish cops do not have a sense of humor. You are about the first person I have ever heard of who managed to talk himself out of a ticket from one...

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