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#82794 - 01/13/07 07:12 PM Lashing sheath to shoulder strap
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Can anyone give me some advice on some options for lashing the sheath of my Leatherman Wave to the shoulder strap of my backpack?

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#82795 - 01/13/07 07:46 PM Re: Lashing sheath to shoulder strap
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I would not lash it upside down. The sheath doesnīt hold it firm enough too prevent loss if the button opens accidendly. I would only lash the sheath to the strap if there is an extra strap for adjusting or holding equipment. You could use a generous amount of paracord or duct tape to fasten the sheath. Make sure to run some of the tape or cord through the belt loop.
I would not run the lashing over the padding of the strap. This could get very uncomfortable.
If you can make a special sheath for the backpack this would be the best solution.
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#82796 - 01/13/07 08:11 PM Re: Lashing sheath to shoulder strap
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Saw this on some Veteran's Day movie did ya <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />? In practise, unless your going to take out every asian american character actor in Hollywood or cut your best friend free rappeling down a mountain it's no more convenient than a secure pocket.

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#82797 - 01/13/07 08:13 PM Re: Lashing sheath to shoulder strap
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I'm gonna second that. The problem with lashing things to packs is, if you lose your pack, you lose that item as well. Keep it on your belt. Be like Batman!
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#82798 - 01/13/07 08:39 PM Re: Lashing sheath to shoulder strap
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You could you zip ties.

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#82799 - 01/13/07 09:07 PM Re: Lashing sheath to shoulder strap
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Zip ties, double-sided Velcro wraps, BladeTech Tek-Lok clip...but with anything, you could lose it, as others have noted. I prefer my knife to be in my pocket, but I do have a small sheath knife on my Camelback HAWG, attached with a Tek-Lok. (It's the pack I use when rappelling, too.)

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#82800 - 01/13/07 10:57 PM Re: Lashing sheath to shoulder strap
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Prussik Loop
Someplace on the web should describe this knot.
Sorry, I can't describe it <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I have no opinion whether this is a good or bad thing...just trying to answer the original question you posed.

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#82801 - 01/13/07 11:36 PM Re: Lashing sheath to shoulder strap
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The prussik knot is not intended for that kind of lashing. It may work itself loose if there there is no load and much movement on it. In most situations it may be possible to tighten it before the tool is lost but it would be uncomfortable to check and tighten it frequently. If the tool is in the loop itīll dangle which is IMHO a bad thing.
BTW: I really liked the idea of lashing equippment to the shoulder strap of my backpack. I was quickly cured by trying it in real life.
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#82802 - 01/14/07 02:09 AM Re: Lashing sheath to shoulder strap
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Hi mpmassie,

You could use rings of bicycle inner tubing.

If you fix it permanently you might want to consider a second sheath to easily transfer back and forth.

My personal preference, like many posters here, would be to carry a knife on my person.

Regards,

B.

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#82803 - 01/14/07 02:54 AM Re: Lashing sheath to shoulder strap
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Upside down, bad. If you really, really, really must attach it to your shoulder strap, I'd go with one of the more secure knife/single pistol mag pouches that is designed to be carried horizontally on the belt, such as the single cell SpecOps SuperSheath, and THEN add a bit of bicycle inner tube around the outside of the sheath to keep it TIGHT.

Either that, or a small utility pouch attached to your shoulder strap that would hold your Wave, a flashlight, lip balm, compass, you know, the stuff you need frequently so you don't want to put it in your pack proper.

One question I suppose is what kind of pack are you using? Some of the newer styles ahve molle webbing on the shoulder strap, so you could add something VERY secure that has, say, velcro and a fastex buckle, such as the USGI or EssTac single pistol mag pouches. But security is going to be a big concern no matter what you have up there.
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#82804 - 01/14/07 04:22 AM Re: Lashing sheath to shoulder strap
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Some GI's used 100 mph tape (aka duct tape) to secure knife sheaths to the shoulder straps of their load bearing equipment. Looks cool, but if the sheath is upside down (looks even cooler) it is real easy to accidentally unsnap the strap and lose your blade. But even if right side up, you only have your knife (or Leatherman) with you when you are wearing your (in this case) pack. So, you set up camp, stash the pack against a tree, then every time you need the Leatherman to do something you have to go back to the pack for it. Morebetter on you instead of the pack...
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#82805 - 01/14/07 06:48 AM Re: Lashing sheath to shoulder strap
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I've had a small 3" fixed blade knife on a pack strap for years. It does have a sheath that was designed for upside down carry. I've found it to be a very convenient way to carry this blade. I always have at least a SAK in my pocket, so I'm not totally screwed if I were to somehow lose it.

To lash it down, I used 1/8" bungee type cord, and did kind of a crossing pattern like shoelaces. It's very secure with a bit of give because of the stretchy cord. It's sold by the foot. I got it at REI, but I'm sure it's available elsewhere.

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#82806 - 01/14/07 09:43 AM constrictor knot?
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For something like this, depending on the backpack strap I think the constrictor knot would be really ideal. However, I would definitely have a direct line to the sheath just as a backup keeper, in case the lashing knots failed or loosened up. However, with the constrictor knot that's unlikely.
Here's a good site on the constrictor knot.

Jason

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#82807 - 01/14/07 09:43 AM Re: Lashing sheath to shoulder strap
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Redondancy ! <img src="/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

I lashed an OutdoorWedge II to the left strap of my backpack. The special locking feature of the plastic sheath seems positive enough to carry it upside down.

But it is only an addition to a folding knife + a Leatherman PST II on my belt + another smaller folding knife in my pant's pocket + a Cold Steel SRK in a side pocket of the backpack (next outing, I will try to fix this one horizontally, on the pack waist belt).

All items on my pant's belt (or in pant's pocket) are not easily accessible, as the pack's waist belt more or less covers them.
OTOH (I mean the right one... <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />), I can have my Wedge II out of its sheath and ready to cut in a second.


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#82808 - 01/14/07 05:35 PM Re: Lashing sheath to shoulder strap
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I am still partial to using duct tape to secure an extra knife (fighting blade) to my combat harness. As the OldBaldGuy stated: it does you no good if it isn't on you & I tend to wear my harness after getting to & setting up camp. I still carry my Buck 110 & Leatherman on my belt.
Keep in mind, don't use duct tape unless you either never remove the knife sheath OR you place some paper or something between the harness and the duct tape. The duct tape leaves glue behind and things get messy after that.
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#82809 - 01/15/07 03:09 PM Re: Lashing sheath to shoulder strap
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Make sure you dummy cord it.

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#82810 - 01/15/07 06:19 PM Re: Lashing sheath to shoulder strap
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Registered: 08/25/06
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During my 1+ year in Vietnam (in combat, in the jungles, etc.) I kept an AF Suvival Knife attached UPSIDE DOWN to my pack's shoulder strap via duct tape until I came across some velcro straps. They were the cat's meow for this purpose. I still keep that same knife (in a replacement sheath) velcro strapped to my pack strap. One piece comes around and across the knife handle itself secuing it with something besides the flimsy leather and snap originally provided. I backpacked much of the Appalachian Trail, the Florida Trail, and made numerous hunting, camping and back-country fishing trips with that knife in that same position and I've never had a problem. I'd recommend a velcro strap at least 3/4" wide - and 1" would be better. They are available at many Internet sights, sporting goods stores and even big box stores like Walmart.
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#82811 - 01/15/07 07:03 PM Re: Lashing sheath to shoulder strap
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Something like this
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#82812 - 01/16/07 04:20 AM Re: Lashing sheath to shoulder strap
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Thanks for the help, from everyone. I am using a Camelbak MULE backpack. I haven't actually received it yet (bought is used on ebay) when I get it and attach the sheath I'll get a digital photo and show what I did. Again, thanks!

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