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#80321 - 12/15/06 04:38 PM Re: USFS in Oregon
Eugene Offline
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Registered: 12/26/02
Posts: 2822
There are legal precidents to situations such as this. Much like the person who slips and falls in the store/resturaunt and sue's the owner of the property. My wife slipped on spilled water in a resturaunt once while we were being led to our table. We got a visit from the manager who waived our bill even though we said she wss ok, which I feel was basically to make nice with us so we didn't drive to a law firm as soon as we left. Thats the situation my parents worry about with their farm, people tresapss and get sutck/hurt and they can afford a better lawyer. So the owners of the road probably want to cya to show thet the gate ws not neglected which could lead to legal fault. We get various notices each winter from the city/county/state governments about road conditions and such to inform us that they are only at fault if a hazardous road condition caused your accident/damage due to their neglect and have published times to clearing snow, repairing potholes, etc from the time of notification. So if you see a hole in the road for a couple days driving to work then hit that hole and damage your car and you try to sue them for neglect and you can't proove that they were notfied then your on your own.

#80322 - 12/16/06 03:33 AM Re: USFS in Oregon
Susan Offline

Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 5163
Loc: W. WA
Josephine County, OR....

Where those in authority forget to lock gates, then lie about vandals; where they're told to clear roads before locking gates, and lock the gates without checking to see if anyone is on the road; where search authorities ignore information; where areas are said to have been cleared and haven't; "We have had people die up there before.''

Kind of makes you want to rush to Josephine County for your summer vacation, doesn't it?

Of course, maybe you would want to move there, and get the county named CoverYourA$$ County, instead.


#80323 - 12/16/06 01:51 PM Re: USFS in Oregon
RobertRogers Offline

Registered: 12/12/06
Posts: 198
Like the time someone's adult daughter fell into a crevasse in Tuckermans Ravine on Mount Washington (New Hampshire) and died - her father sued the USFS for allowing such unsafe features to exist in the mountains!

Edited by RobertRogers (12/16/06 01:52 PM)

#80324 - 12/16/06 05:05 PM Re: USFS in Oregon
cedfire Offline

Registered: 07/10/03
Posts: 659
Loc: Orygun
Plenty of CYA. But a beautiful place and friendly folks.

#80325 - 12/16/06 05:36 PM Re: USFS in Oregon
Alan_Romania Offline


Registered: 06/29/05
Posts: 610
Loc: Arizona
You would be supprised how often locks are cut off forest servcie gates. We were working an event in northen AZ a few years ago, one of the local forest service guys gave us a key that would get us through all the gates just in case we needed access for a rescue. Well, every gate we had come to had the locks cut from them... not the chains the freaking locks...
"Trust in God --and press-check. You cannot ignore danger and call it faith." -Duke

#80326 - 12/17/06 01:38 AM Re: USFS in Oregon
OldBaldGuy Offline

Registered: 09/30/01
Posts: 5695
Loc: Former AFB in CA, recouping fr...
Plus no sales tax, and they pump your gas for you!!!

#80327 - 12/17/06 05:08 AM Re: USFS in Oregon
cedfire Offline

Registered: 07/10/03
Posts: 659
Loc: Orygun
I like when the gas station attendants come out and tell people to get back in their cars, that pumping your own gas is against the law.

Usually their facial expressions progress like this: <img src="/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Only other state I'm aware of that is similar would be New Jersey.

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