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#72274 - 08/30/06 04:37 AM Re: My latest outing
Boacrow Offline
journeyman

Registered: 08/18/06
Posts: 85
I've never objected to anything that anyone does. I simply said it wasn't for me. I carry gear with me from time to time. I own a GPS although I don't know where it is at the moment. As for what brands, I don't know the difference. I also really don't care. I can look at the construction quality of something and tell whether it's going to serve my purpose or not. I don't get sucked into the name brand stuff. I don't carry expensive knives, just ones that work. I don't have a good compass, I can tell direction without one. I don't carry name brand firestarters (unless you count Bic) or any fancy multitool (I've never needed a corkscrew, philips head screwdriver, three inch saw, nail file, ruler, or bottle opener). I buy tools for their functionality, not because someone said I had to get one. I do a lot of my shopping in hardware stores because I know they have quality tools, not because I need a status symbol. In the end, mother nature doesn't care what brand name your gear has on it, she just wants to kill you with whatever she can throw at you. Now people can make fun of me because I am more "primitive" than the rest, but the simple fact is, I can probably do more with less than most of the people here. I can also make it more comfortable, and more survivable. How do I know this? Because I have done it. So far I haven't heard such claims from anyone else. The longest I've heard of so far is two weeks. So the way I see it, I might have something to contribute even though I don't do things the same way. By the way, the last time I was out for more than a couple of months, I gained 20 lbs, and all I had was a small machete and 100' of paracord.

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#72275 - 08/30/06 04:45 AM Re: My latest outing
Fitzoid Offline
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Registered: 08/23/05
Posts: 289
Loc: WI, MA, and NYC
Boacrow and Angel, I think I gave you the wrong impression -- I have no problem with Boacrow's post at all. I enjoyed his sage commentary and agree with most of it. <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I just like my high-tech toys. (And sometimes in the winter, it's fun to snuggle up in a mummy bag.)
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#72276 - 08/30/06 05:11 AM Re: My latest outing
Leigh_Ratcliffe Offline
Veteran

Registered: 03/31/06
Posts: 1355
Loc: United Kingdom.
I came, I read, I sniggered.

Very witty mate. <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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#72277 - 08/30/06 02:51 PM Re: My latest outing
joaquin39 Offline
Member

Registered: 03/19/05
Posts: 149
Loc: Philadelphia,Pennsyvania, USA.
Boacrow:
I like your post. Where are you from and where do you go in your outings?. Also at what time of the year?.
I also agree with you that most of us are armchair survivors in the sense that although we go out hunting, fishing or camping we like to be as prepare as we can so we don't risk our lives if we can help it. Thank you for your post.

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#72278 - 08/30/06 03:29 PM Re: My latest outing
JIM Offline
Old Hand

Registered: 03/18/06
Posts: 1032
Loc: The Netherlands
Maybe a idea for your next outing: Take your skills and minimal equipment with you.
Then duct-tape one of your arms to your side. Let's see if your skills will help you survive now......
Just curious, is there a primitive one-handed fire starting technique?
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#72279 - 08/30/06 04:24 PM Where, What materials & Mosquitos
Micah513 Offline
Member

Registered: 07/18/06
Posts: 178
Loc: Springfield, MO
Where in the world do you camp at?

What type of materials make the '20 X '20 shelter (roof & walls)?

Does the fire take care of the bugs? If so are you getting up every hour or so to build it back up?

Really am curious & not trying flame you...

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#72280 - 08/30/06 05:34 PM Re: My latest outing
Craig_phx Offline
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Registered: 04/05/05
Posts: 715
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
Pictures?
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#72281 - 08/30/06 06:56 PM Re: My latest outing
Boacrow Offline
journeyman

Registered: 08/18/06
Posts: 85
I assume the one handed thing is real big on this forum. I keep having people mention it. Actually, I do great one handed. I've done it many times due to many injuries to my hands (I can show you the scars if you like) and I will most likely do it again. Since I'm a smoker, I use the lighter that I carry with me. If that one goes out, I have several more in several different places. If they all fail, a magnifying glas works great. All one handed. In fact, I can stick the glass in the ground and aim it just so and I can do that one no handed. I'm sure that with enough gear, I wouldn't need arms or legs to survive, but to me, survival begins when there is no gear. Until then it's just camping. all of the methods I use have been tried and tested many times by me and I have had to do most of them one handed at one time or another. I am certainly capable. Just out of curiosity, what's the longest you have been out for with full use of both arms? If you like, we could go out sometime and try out our individual methods. You can bring Bob and whatever you can haul in, and I will take my smokes, lighter, knife, and cordage and we can see how we do. I'll even let you tape up one of my arms, your choice. Do you feel confident that you can make it?

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#72282 - 08/30/06 07:07 PM Re: Where, What materials & Mosquitos
Boacrow Offline
journeyman

Registered: 08/18/06
Posts: 85
Around here, there is planty of land to set up camp. I use wood to build shelter frames (fallen saplings, limbs, anything handy), then top it with boughs pointed at the ground and layered so that water runs down it, not through it. I just lay the frame in the crooks of trees and start stacking. You can make a shelter any size you want by just adding to the frame. If you want walls, simply slope it all the way to the ground. The woods are full of materials to use. Usually the smoke from the fire takes care of insects pretty well. There are those that do bite though. the fire I make is a relatively slow burning one although I do have to stoke it from time to time. At night I just bank the coals and use them in the morning to get it going again. I don't burn it all night. There's really no need for a fire al night, the coals put out alot of heat by themselves. Nothing to it really.

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#72283 - 08/30/06 07:16 PM Re: My latest outing
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Veteran

Registered: 03/31/06
Posts: 1355
Loc: United Kingdom.
THis is one of Doug Ritters sore points: Too many so called survival kits assume that when TSHTF, you will be uninjured. Which is twaddle, BS and any other pergorative you would care to use. Hence the interest amonst the better informed in equipment that can be used one handed. And that means either handed!
Very few people have your skill level - me included- which makes you a very welcome addition to the group. No one in their right mind wants to be dumped into a situation bare ass naked. Hence the interest in equipment. <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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