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#72160 - 08/28/06 07:16 PM TAC-PACK TRAUMA PACK
jamesraykenney Offline
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Registered: 03/12/04
Posts: 316
Loc: Beaumont, TX USA
Does anyone have any experience with the TAC-PACK TRAUMA PACK?

I keep one in my kit to handle things that a little first aid kit can not...
In fact, I carry one even when I do not carry a small first aid kit...
My thinking is that, if something is minor enough for the tiny first aid kits to handle, then it can probably wait, and if it is too major for them, then it probably can not wait...

What does everyone think about this?
I have been carrying it all the time in my semi-every-day-carry bag... Meaning it goes ALMOST everywhere I go(except lunch, which is {of course} the place where I stand the most chance of a major injury).
I have never looked in it because it is vacuum packed and I do not want to break the seal, so does anyone have any experience with this piece of kit?
Their web site is http://www.tac-pack.com/ and I just noticed that they are SUPPOSED to soon have a version for the outdoors...
You can buy them directly, but Countycomm has them for the 501+ quantity pricing...

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#72161 - 08/28/06 08:27 PM Re: TAC-PACK TRAUMA PACK
billym Offline
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Registered: 12/01/05
Posts: 616
Loc: Oakland, California
expensive. Probably less than $5 in materials for $18.

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#72162 - 08/28/06 08:37 PM Re: TAC-PACK TRAUMA PACK
jamesraykenney Offline
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True, but I do not have an industrial vacuum packer...
It is hard to tell in the pictures just how flat this thing is...

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#72163 - 08/28/06 09:27 PM Re: TAC-PACK TRAUMA PACK
billym Offline
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So you are judging the quality by how flat it is?


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#72164 - 08/28/06 09:52 PM Re: TAC-PACK TRAUMA PACK
jamesraykenney Offline
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No, I am judging the packability by how flat it is...

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#72165 - 08/29/06 12:09 AM Re: TAC-PACK TRAUMA PACK
aligator Offline
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Registered: 07/08/06
Posts: 96
Loc: NY
Sir; I don't have any experience with the Tac-Pack personally. I view it as a specialty item designed as a "blow-out" kit for senarios where you have to carry your stuff invisably ( exective protection ect ). It seems to me that when you try to microsize, you are forced to compromise either in quantity or variety. I have a personal aid bag thats about the size of a large grapefruit. It is designed to be an EDC kit that can handle anything, on a remedial basis, from band-aids and splinters to GSW/knife wounds and surgical airways. Compromises have to be made as I've yet to figure out how to carry an ER in the field. I think most people are faced with common illness and injuries (thank God) much more frequently then they are life threatening situations. If you are planning to use this kit as part of your survival preps, I would offer that the minor stuff that takes care of it's self can become infected and potentially life threatening. Tend to the "small" stuff so it stays small. "all bleading stops eventually" Respectfully; Jim

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#72166 - 08/29/06 12:40 AM Re: TAC-PACK TRAUMA PACK
MartinFocazio Offline

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Registered: 01/21/03
Posts: 2203
Loc: Bucks County PA
I'm of the same mind set - first aid, in my opinion, isn't a boo-boo kit for splinters and minor burns, or coping with constipation. That's second aid.
First aid is keeping someone from bleeding out, keeping them breathing and holding the line against further trauma. So that's why, when I'm out and about in NYC, the traditional FAK stays in the computer bag, but on my person is a TAC-PACK like kit

1. Bleed-X
2. Tegaderm Transparent Dressing
1. Pair Purple Nitrile Gloves
1. 6x6 Sponge
2. 4x4 Sponge
1. Roll 2" Guaze (flattened)
1. Roll Flat Duct Tape (better than medical tape)
1. N95 Mask
1.. Vionex Hand Wipe (not carried on airplanes)
24" 550 cord
1 medic shears.

If you can't stop the bleeding, pack stuff in the puncture, tie off the amputation, all the benedryl in the world won't matter. My kit fits in a tiny little pouch, is airline-proof (yes, you can bring medic shears on board) and bleed-x is a powder.

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#72167 - 08/29/06 03:22 AM Re: TAC-PACK TRAUMA PACK
Susan Offline
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Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 5163
Loc: W. WA
It says it's three-quarters of an inch thick.

It seems overpriced to me.

I like Martin F's pack better, except for the duct tape, which I would replace with 1" wide waterproof adhesive tape (I had to get it from my vet). I am also considering something like a folded piece of plastic wrap to temporarily seal a deep chest wound, but it's hard to peel apart when your hands are shaking.

Sue

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#72168 - 08/29/06 05:48 AM Re: TAC-PACK TRAUMA PACK
jamesraykenney Offline
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Registered: 03/12/04
Posts: 316
Loc: Beaumont, TX USA
Well, I finally found a review over at Military Morons.
The picture there shows the contents much better than the company site does.
Maybe I will add a Adventure Medical Pocket Medic in another pocket.

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#72169 - 08/29/06 12:16 PM Re: TAC-PACK TRAUMA PACK
Glock-A-Roo Offline
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Registered: 04/16/03
Posts: 1076
Similarly, the CinchTight bandage from H&H Associates is now available in a vacuum sealed flat pack format. Saves a lot of space and slips into a coat pocket or pants pocket easily.

But, remember that any vacuum packed item that you EDC on your person will eventually get a pin-hole and lose the vacuum seal. It will then take up more space but will still be more compact than if you just carried it loose in a ZipLoc.

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#72170 - 08/29/06 09:28 PM Re: TAC-PACK TRAUMA PACK
nursetim Offline
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Registered: 08/29/06
Posts: 41
Loc: the last bastion of PHRASECENS...
I have three, opened one, carry one, gave wifey the other. It's about 1/2" thick. Good for plugging a hole, not much else.
LApolicegear has them on sale for 12 bucks. I'd rather have an izzy bandage and a pair of gloves myself. <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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#72171 - 08/30/06 03:08 PM Re: TAC-PACK TRAUMA PACK
JIM Offline
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Registered: 03/18/06
Posts: 1032
Loc: The Netherlands
A question: why are there different color nitrile gloves? So far I've seen purple, blue, green and white. Why??

BTW: a very interesting link: www.trauma.org


Edited by JIM (08/30/06 03:31 PM)
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#72172 - 08/30/06 06:39 PM Re: TAC-PACK TRAUMA PACK
Susan Offline
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Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 5163
Loc: W. WA
There is currently no definite attributes to the different colors of gloves:

http://www.dontheglove.com/mgarticles/manycolors.html

Sue

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#72173 - 09/01/06 08:31 PM Re: TAC-PACK TRAUMA PACK
pworks36 Offline
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Registered: 09/23/03
Posts: 22
Loc: Florida
Thankfully I do not have experience with the contents of this kit and my personal qualifications to assess it are rather limited. The one key for me in buying a couple wa that one fits just right inside the interior vest pocket of my CCW cover vest. I hope I never need it, but it is thin and light so it stays right there and doesn't share space with anything else. Could I get similar equipment for less price? Probably. Can I pack it down that small myself? Probably not.

Admittedly it is, from my point-of-view, a liability mitigator and/or a possible counter-argument to a potentially over-zealous prosecutor someday if I have cause to need it.

Addressing a point someone else raised about vacuum packing and pinholes punctures to the packaging. I placed the entire packet inside a zip-lock freezer bag for that very reason. Still slim and has a slightly thicker shell to handle abrasions, etc.

Just my two cents...
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#72174 - 09/03/06 08:04 PM Re: TAC-PACK TRAUMA PACK
Paulb Offline
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Registered: 08/21/03
Posts: 60
Small and effective for gunshot wounds ... great idea for law enforcement and hunters.

Those that don't get shot or shot at on a regular basis can't appreciate this.

And there have been a few kits like this around but not sealed and most home-spun.

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#72175 - 09/03/06 10:12 PM Sucking Chest Wound
Paulb Offline
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Registered: 08/21/03
Posts: 60
The first (home spun) kits available used vaseline guaze. I know there is a plastic sheild type patch out there. Also, we were taught to use a piece of our Tyvek map.

But one thing I like alot for big wound / bleeders is the milspec medic bandage.

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