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#54420 - 11/25/05 03:18 PM Another multitool question
Ors Offline
Namu (Giant Tree)

Registered: 09/16/05
Posts: 664
Loc: Florida, USA
For those of you that carry SOG, which one do you carry? What do you like about it? What do you not like about it?

And for those of you that have broken Leatherman tools, or several of them, in what way did they fail? Was it something covered by the warranty?

Thanks all!
Memento mori
Vulnerant omnes, ultima necat (They all wound, the last kills)

#54421 - 11/25/05 04:23 PM Re: Another multitool question

I dont have any and Ive only receintly handled one. Dont know which model it was but I wasnt that impressed. A friend pulled his out to do some work on a washing machine. When I used it, I found the tools easily folded back while using them. Needs a lock or higher tenssion to hold them.

I sent my first Wave (old style) back under warranty. The jaws went loose after a couple of months. It had a lot of play in them, and you couldnt cut much with the wire cutter because the jaws would move apart and just kink the wire. Fixed under warranty. They wore out fast too. My 2nd Wave (old style) has lasted a bit longer but is starting to show signs of ware.
I havent found that any of my Leathermans will hold an edge on the blade very well, so I am continually resharpening them.
My SuperTool has been fine, but is showing signs of ware. That lives in the car tool box now.
My Mini Tool doesnt get much use, so that has been fine.
My Crunch hasnt had any problems either.

Another problem I did have with the first Wave is that sometimes a bit of dirt or something would cause a bit of friction and the knife blade would sometimes open while using the pliers. I have been lucky and not cut myself, but it is quite dangerous if you dont watch for it. The second Wave didnt have that prob. Because Leatherman use a funny shaped tool to hold the pliers, I cant adjust the tension on the pivot point for the blade, so I just make sure its kept clean.

#54422 - 11/26/05 02:43 AM Re: Another multitool question
Trusbx Offline

Registered: 01/16/02
Posts: 397
Loc: Ed's Country
Letherman Wave:
Screwdriver head bent while putting in a screw
Wire cutters wouldn't cut steel leader wire, just kept bending the darn thing.

Swisstool - no problems. Even the tiny swisschamp pliers could cut the steel leader wire... <img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />


#54423 - 11/26/05 09:16 PM Re: Another multitool question
bubbajoe Offline

Registered: 10/29/05
Posts: 72
Loc: PA. USA
I've been using the leatherman charge for a few months now, I haven't had a problem with it. i own a small horse farm and use it everyday. I clean and oil mine once a week along with my pocket folder and other gadgets i walk around with. sawdust is murder on equipment! gets in every nook and cranny! i use compressed air in a can to blow all the dirt out. had other multi tools and they all failed one way or the other. leatherman holds up pretty good for me. all the blades and tools lock. knife dosen't hold an edge very good but its not bad compared to others.

#54424 - 11/27/05 02:52 PM Re: Another multitool question
widget Offline

Registered: 07/06/03
Posts: 550
Original made in USA Leatherman, plier tip broke off on second time use, while bending some home electric wire, just making a loop. Screwdriver twisted when trying to remove a screw from a wooden 2x4.
Supertool wirecutter would not cut a coat hanger, edge damaged from attempting to make that cut. Plier jaws twisted also and became loose. Cutting tools dulled easily and were soft metal.
Second Supertool was sent to a friend in the military in Iraq, sent me a letter a few weeks after recieving the ST and thanked me, said it was very handy but could I please send another because the first one broke. Unspecified breakage. I sent him a Swiss Tool, still has it today and uses it daily at oil rig job in Oklahoma.
Micro, scissors were useless after cutting some moleskin to treat a blister. Again, soft metal. Knife blade damaged while using to pop off a cheap watch back, yeah, I know not recommended!
I am sure Leatherman would have warranty repaired or replaced any of these. I never sent them in. Reason: why would I want another tool that would fail?
A warranty is great but if the tool fails you when you need it most, in an emergency, what good is a warranty? If you die because your equipment fails, a lifetime warranty just expired.
No, I am not Bear Grylls, but I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night and Bear was there too!

#54425 - 11/27/05 06:17 PM Re: Another multitool question
KenK Offline
"Be Prepared"

Registered: 06/26/04
Posts: 2137
Loc: NE Wisconsin
Huh, I have a very good friend - Dan - who was a tank platoon commander in Gulf War 1, in command of four tanks that were in combat in Iraq. He said that his Leatherman - not sure which model - was his most used tool during he service (before, during, & after the war). Apparently it was used so much by the men in Dan's tank that when leaving the Army Dan gave the LM to his tank driver as a thank you gift. Luckily his lasted longer than the one's you had.

#54426 - 11/27/05 07:31 PM Re: Another multitool question
Nicodemus Offline

Registered: 10/30/05
Posts: 1341
Loc: Virginia, US
I have a Leatherman Charge Ti and for me it has been one of the best multitools I've ever owned.

Granted I've had it for a little less than a year, but I've certainly put it through the paces in that time and frankly used it in ways that were well beyond the scope for which individual tools were intended. So far it's held up superbly.

I even managed to break out the Leatherman at my sister's Thanksgiving dinner to drive the fixed screwdriver through the bottom of a cranberry can to relieve the suction... HAHAHA (The bottom of the can had no lip to use the opener on)

The one thing I'm not to happy about is the way the removeable lanyard ring and pocket clip work though. I'm constantly worried that I will lose the pocket clip when I click the lock to return the bit driver or can opener to the closed position.

To be honest I've only used the scissors to clip a nail once or twice and a hangnail on another occasion thus far, and think I only did so to make me feel like I had used them. LOL I often wonder if I could have the scissors replaced. Of course the moment I replaced them would be the moment I needed them.
"Learn survival skills when your life doesn't depend on it."

#54427 - 11/27/05 07:40 PM Re: Another multitool question
Nicodemus Offline

Registered: 10/30/05
Posts: 1341
Loc: Virginia, US
To add to this topic...
At times I think that any manufactured product one buys has the potential of being a lemon no matter what company makes it or what their reputation for quality is. There have been instances where I've bought the same item from the same manufacturer and had them perform entirely differently. Quality control isn't perfect. Still, we expect a certain level of quality and are apt to get cheesed off when things don't perform as well as we expect. From there I guess it depends on what the manufacturer is willing to do to remedy the situation.
"Learn survival skills when your life doesn't depend on it."

#54428 - 11/28/05 12:01 AM Re: Another multitool question

I will agree that my Leathermans do not match the quality of my Swiss Tools. Victorinox use better steel and make them better quality.
However, my old style Wave suits my work a bit better, and is a bit more usable than either of my Swiss Tools. So my Wave gets grabbed more than the Swiss Tools for EDC. While working, I can use the pliers and blade 1 handed, the file and scissors are easier to open than the Swiss Tools, and the scissors are better than Victorinox scissors. The pliers shape is much more usable than the Swiss Tools, and gets into more places than I can using the Swiss Tool. I have 7/8 Victoinox knives and 2 Swiss Tools, and the scissors arent particulary good in any of them. Usability has to be taken into account when buying as well.
I dont know of a tool that cant be broken in some way. Leatherman are still higher quality than some of the cheaper tools out there. They may not be the best, but they are still worthy.

#54429 - 11/28/05 03:56 AM Re: Another multitool question
Dreadnought Offline

Registered: 09/13/05
Posts: 31
Loc: Pennsylvania
I have and use a SOG Powerlock. I like it very much. It can be opened with one hand. The over all quality is great. I wish I could sharpen my other carry knives as sharp as the blade that came on the powerlock. I like the the socket bit tool "thingy". I can easily attach any 1/4" socket and it holds and operates just fine. I also like the fact that the individual tools can be easily serviced, changed or removed. Lastly, the individual tools lock very well with the Powerlock feature.

I only wished that the knife blade was larger and wider but no big deal because I don't use the SOG multi-tool as my primary edged weapon/tool.

I also wish the tools were accessable without opening to the plier side of the tool like a LM Wave.

Overall I feel the the SOG Powerlock is of very high quality and I would reccomend it.

Regards to all,
"Do what you can, with what you have, where you are" : Theodore Roosevelt c.1899

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