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#50676 - 09/29/05 01:14 PM Re: Gatorade packets
Malpaso Offline
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Thanks Matt. That's the best price I could find. If you buy quantities, you get a discount. Comes out to about $.65 per packet.
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#50677 - 09/29/05 02:17 PM Re: Gatorade packets
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In my opinion that stuff is only needed in a marathon or other long distance race where you cannot eat something easily over several hours. Otherwise, snack every hour or two and drink plain water. Don't waste your money.

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#50678 - 09/29/05 02:39 PM Re: The physiology of hydration
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So, it sounds like a drink that contains glucose is indeed a better solution, but one that contains more complex sugars will also work, just not as directly?


Well, hypothetically glucose would promote faster water absorbtion than using surcrose (table sugar), but in the real world? The difference probably is not that significant. Our bodies are quite efficient at breaking down various sugars quickly and getting it into our bloodstreams...and then into our fat stores. <img src="/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Anyway, just know that in a pinch, you can make an effective rehydration solution just from ingredients in the average kitchen. And it is definitely more quickly and effectively absorbed than just plain water.

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#50679 - 09/29/05 02:46 PM Re: Gatorade packets
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In my opinion that stuff is only needed in a marathon or other long distance race where you cannot eat something easily over several hours. Otherwise, snack every hour or two and drink plain water. Don't waste your money.


This goes well beyond nutritional need. What we have here is psychological need. If you have water that tastes like gatorade as opposed to bleach, you will be more likely to hydrate, and have better morale.
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#50680 - 09/29/05 03:35 PM Re: The physiology of hydration
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...I didn't pay so much attention to the color of my urine as I did to how my body felt, how my mind was functioning. If I felt like I needed more liquid, I got something to drink...


This quote from benjammin may be the most practical advice on keeping yourself hydrated.

There's been a gradual change in the scientific consensus about how much or how often you need to drink while exerting yourself. In the past, athletes and other active people were advised to "drink as often as you can because thirst is not a good indicator of your water needs". Over the years since then, people have noticed that a lot of people actually suffer from drinking too much water by trying to follow this advice, for example, at marathons. Even sports drinks have a pretty low concentration of electrolytes so if you chug a lot of plain water or even a lot of sports drink, you can still end up with hyponatremia--the excessive dilution of sodium in your body.

Actually, benjammin's observation that you feel sick if you drink more than 2 gal/day, regardless of whether the beverage contains electrolyte, is likely a sign of hyponatremia. There's just too much water entering your body and it's seriously diluting the sodium concentration in your body. Signs of hyponatremia include: nausea, headache, cramps, confusion, slurred speech, bloating and swollen hands. Some of these symptoms are similar to impending heat exhaustion or heat stroke, which makes things confusing because you wonder if you need to drink even MORE water.

USA Track and Field used to advise athletes to drink as much as possible. In 2003, they changed their advice to "drink when thirsty" because of fears of hyponatremia. The International Marathon Medical Directors Association now advises runners to drink ad libitum, that is, at their discretion and not to drink faster than 800 ml/hour (a can of soda is about 350 ml).

Benjammin's observation about Gatorade might be a different phenomenon. Too much sugar inhibits gastric empyting into the small intestine and I have read that Gatorade contains too much sugar, so he may be feeling bloated because the Gatorade stays longer in his stomach than is comfortable. Benjammin, you might try diluting it and see if you still get that bloated feeling.

But benjammin has good advice: listen to your body. To that, I would add: drink when you're thirsty, but don't force yourself to drink more often if you don't feel like it.

In more extreme situations, like if you're really exerting yourself hard, especially in a very hot, dry environment, you may want to push the fluids, though, because you can lose water much faster than you can absorb it and dehydration is a real concern. You can use urine color and weigh yourself to evaluate if you're getting enough or too much water.

Again, I'm not a doctor, so please consult with your own healthcare provider about what's right for your own specific situation.

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#50681 - 09/29/05 03:42 PM Re: Gatorade packets
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Yeah, I think this thread is getting a bit mixed up between how best to hydrate yourself and how to find convenient sized Gatorade packets to make treated water palatable. Unfortunately, I'm contributing to the veer off the world of hydration. Me and my big mouth <img src="/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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#50682 - 09/29/05 05:26 PM Re: Gatorade packets
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You went to GenCon with a decaf, zero calorie beverage?!?

OH THE HUMANITY!!!

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#50683 - 09/29/05 07:16 PM Re: Gatorade packets
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You went to GenCon with a decaf, zero calorie beverage?!?

OH THE HUMANITY!!!

I thought you were required to drink Mt Dew at gaming conventions.
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#50684 - 09/29/05 07:48 PM Re: Gatorade packets
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He mentioned nothing about psychological problems..lol. I just got back from a week in the Colorado backcountry and had no issues with lack of morale. My plain water doesn't taste like bleach either. Azazing scenery out there.

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#50685 - 09/29/05 10:28 PM Re: Gatorade packets
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Loc: Arlington, VA
Be careful what kind of container you mix it in.

I've got a couple of quart canteens that still taste like gatorade 5 years later.

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