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#42588 - 06/29/05 12:27 AM Vacation Scenario
7k7k99 Offline
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Registered: 06/01/05
Posts: 375
Loc: Ohio
So what do you do after you have spent hundreds of dollars on putting together a bug out bag and a pocket survival kit and you want to go on vacation. If you fly, you can't take hardly any of the great stuff you've acquired with you, because it will be confiscated. But you don't want to feel naked at your destination with no psk. What do you do? I thought about going to a gun or sporting goods store and hopefully finding a Ritter PSK to at least have a few basics where I'm at for a few days and then mail the newly purchased PSK back to my home. Checked Luggage is subject to search and theft by nimble-fingered TSA employees, so mailing it back home appears to be the best option. Obviously, with a big investment of survival gear, you don't want to duplicate everything but at least have a minimum at your selected destination. Any other ideas?

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#42589 - 06/29/05 01:27 AM Re: Vacation Scenario
harrkev Offline
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Registered: 09/05/01
Posts: 384
Loc: Colorado Springs, CO
With very few exceptions, you should be able to check anything. That should cover you on the ground.

Carry-on emergency gear is probably not needed. Unless you pack a parachute, I can't think of anything that could help an air disaster.

And if the plane DOES crash, emergency crews tend to show up to things like that within 5 minutes. Large passenger jets tend to attract a lot of attention when they make landings in places other than airports. Let the police and paramedics bring their emergency gear.
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#42590 - 06/29/05 01:44 AM Re: Vacation Scenario
MGF Offline
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Registered: 06/16/05
Posts: 114
Loc: Illinois
For personal/edc carry, your idea sounds pretty good to me. I'd probably add an on-site folding knife purchase (maybe a Gerber LST II for around $20) and mail it home later with the PSK.

Still, i think you could pack some some supplementing gear in a shaving-kit sized bag in your checked luggage. Just make it's stuff you can afford to lose in case some TSA guy or gal does grub it up.

I've flown several times with an original Leatherman in my shaving kit in my checked bag, and no one's filched it yet.


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#42591 - 06/29/05 03:28 AM Re: Vacation Scenario
cedfire Offline
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Registered: 07/10/03
Posts: 659
Loc: Orygun
I think it was brought up on this forum that sending your gear ahead of you (UPS/FedEx/etc.) worked quite well.

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#42592 - 06/29/05 12:08 PM Re: Vacation Scenario
benjammin Offline
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Registered: 02/06/04
Posts: 4020
Loc: Anchorage AK
Having come and gone in and out of Baghdad/USA, this is what I can tell you:

I had several knives, nails, med supplies, packaged food, and various other survival goodies packed loose in my checked baggage. If you get luggage that has a TSA approved locking mechanism, only TSA agents will get into your baggage, which means the baggage handlers cannot open it without breaking it, which does not happen. Except for some non-prescription drugs and alchoholic beverages and explosives (and now lighters) and pressurized flammables, you can check just about anything you would need for a survival kit in checked baggage. What you can't check (a lighter, some emergency fuel etc), you can pick up easily enough at your destination (I snagged a disposable lighter and some cotton balls and a tube of vaseline at the duty free before I even left the airport).

Surprisingly, I was able to bring an awful lot of stuff right on the plane with me as carry on, like flashlights, meds, matches, plastic bags, string, duct tape, gorilla glue, toothpicks, you get the idea. All packed away in my little messenger bag, which they did not count as a carry on by the way, which meant I could hold onto my laptop and my day pack that contained an extra set of clothes and other supplies/gear. I was surprised to find out that there are things I can carry on that can't be in my checked baggage.

If you really want to know what you can and can't do, go to the TSA website and find out. Here's the address:

http://tsa.gov/public/display?theme=175

If you really need something you can't take and will likely not find at your destination, then improvise. Ultimately, you can never have enough survival stuff, or you can always make do with what is at hand. Chance favors the prepared mind.
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#42593 - 06/29/05 12:33 PM Re: Vacation Scenario
Craig Offline


Registered: 11/13/01
Posts: 1784
Loc: Collegeville, PA, USA
Quote:
All packed away in my little messenger bag


What make/model of messenger bag do you have?

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#42594 - 06/30/05 03:39 AM Re: Vacation Scenario
brian Offline
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Registered: 07/28/04
Posts: 1468
Loc: Texas
There's always FedEx. Personally I just pack my stuff in my suitcase and check the suitcase in baggage but lots of folks here use fedex. Funny you mention this because I am flying to Vegas for the 4th. I'm taking my usual EDC except substituting an RSK for the new Sebenza. Don't trust the airlines w/ my Sebenza and the RSK is a superb knife that I often EDC anyway. <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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#42595 - 06/30/05 03:44 AM Re: Vacation Scenario
7k7k99 Offline
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Registered: 06/01/05
Posts: 375
Loc: Ohio
I'm not comfortable checking anything valuable anymore since TSA can cut your locks off to inspect your luggage or worse, open those tsa approved locks with their own keys and rummage to their hearts content. I just received my RSK today and I don't think I would risk that one either. Just my opinion.

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#42596 - 06/30/05 04:32 AM Re: Vacation Scenario
brian Offline
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Registered: 07/28/04
Posts: 1468
Loc: Texas
Well on Tuesday I will post and let know if my RSK makes it to Vegas and back. Its garanteed that the TSA will search my bag. They always do. I don't even lock them.
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#42597 - 06/30/05 05:31 AM Re: Vacation Scenario
7k7k99 Offline
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Registered: 06/01/05
Posts: 375
Loc: Ohio
great! because I'm goin to Vegas in August

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