Amen!
1. If it wasn't for the scouts, I couldn't have stood the last several years of camping with the scouts - the misery has been exquisite.
2. My kind of camping does not exist in the (over) populous Midwest - I can get away with what we did no more than 2 times a year (non-winter and winter) or I'll wear it out - we took advantage of our contiguous boundaries/interconnected trails with the county forest preserve and picked routes carefully to wind up in seemingly remote areas in both the preserve and the reservation. We (adults) are already plotting the next route to swing around a different (longer) loop with different stops.
To make matters worse - the only "experienced" adults in our unit have a lot of Philmont Trips - and zero, none, nada other experiences. Hardly my style... Philmont is fantastic, but 50,000 - 75,000 visitors a year and fairly rigid agendas - <shudder> - not my cuppa.
Gimme real wilderness - oh, Chris, sorry, but leave the dang horses home. Some otherwise reasonable folks get pretty danged arrogant sitting in a saddle... unlike our esteemed moderator. Sometimes I can't tell the difference between the tail end of the critter and the person astride it... the few exceptions I've encountered have been very noteworthy individuals.
3. It is pathetic that it has taken all this much time to finally get the unit motivated to do this sort of thing. I'll be seeing these kids in our Venturing Crew in a few short years, thank goodness - no holds bared then.
I hate sharing "my" wilderness with other folks.. <img src="/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> I have the worst itch to move back way north for good...
I'm not really anti-social... well, not in town, anyway...