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#300970 - 04/19/22 12:25 PM 76% of Documented Handgun Defenses Against Bears H
Doug_Ritter Offline

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#300982 - 04/23/22 07:15 PM Re: 76% of Documented Handgun Defenses Against Bears H [Re: Doug_Ritter]
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It is good to know that handguns are effective, but that isn't the major problem -From 2000to 2017, an average of 62 fatalities were caused by wasps, hornets, and bees: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/68/wr/mm6829a5.htm

During the same period, there were 10 deaths caused by bear attacks.

Do firearms work against bees?
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#300983 - 04/23/22 08:59 PM Re: 76% of Documented Handgun Defenses Against Bears H [Re: Doug_Ritter]
Herman30 Offline
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Registered: 08/08/06
Posts: 460
Loc: Finland
And in Finland, ticks are more dangerous than bears. We have only 0-2 attacks by bear per year.

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#300984 - 04/24/22 07:40 AM Re: 76% of Documented Handgun Defenses Against Bears H [Re: Doug_Ritter]
Phaedrus Offline
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Registered: 04/28/10
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We've already had the first fatal Grizzly attack of '22 in Montana. 50 miles from my home.
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#300985 - 04/24/22 04:10 PM Re: 76% of Documented Handgun Defenses Against Bears H [Re: Doug_Ritter]
hikermor Offline
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Loc: southern Cal
The honeybee issue shows how often we disregard mor.
e frequent, less noteworthy events and focus on more spectacular occurrences.

Working in volunteer search and rescue in southern Arizona for many years, it was surprising to learn that the leading cause of fatalities in our area was drowning, often in flash floods, followed by falls ( usually more than 40 feet).

The real threats don't often create headlines......

Conversely, a lot of folks go armed into the wild, usually for protection, when nearly all of the time, they are dragging useless weight, instead of something like more water or climbing rope, which could be far more useful.

Let me be clear -I am a firearms owner, a 2A supporter, but my experience is that a weapon is rarely needed, ot that it is the bst tool for the job.


Edited by hikermor (04/24/22 04:20 PM)
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#300986 - 04/25/22 02:30 PM Re: 76% of Documented Handgun Defenses Against Bears H [Re: Doug_Ritter]
wileycoyote Offline
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Registered: 03/01/11
Posts: 296
Loc: eastern Oregon & west TX
but bears are a great excuse to carry your favorite firearm :-)

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#301001 - 05/13/22 10:59 PM Re: 76% of Documented Handgun Defenses Against Bears H [Re: Doug_Ritter]
clearwater Offline
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Registered: 03/19/05
Posts: 1174
Loc: Channeled Scablands
Never been seriously injured by bees or bears, but hassled more by bears than bees, (more by mosquitoes than bears). Most uncomfortable adventures have been when out of water or cold. Never needed a rope where there wasn't another way around an obstacle, tho I luv an excuse to carry a firearm or a rope.


Edited by clearwater (05/13/22 10:59 PM)

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#301004 - 05/15/22 12:11 AM Re: 76% of Documented Handgun Defenses Against Bears H [Re: Doug_Ritter]
DaveL Offline
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Registered: 10/03/18
Posts: 87
Loc: Colorado Springs,CO
Guns are like parachutes when you need one nothing else works MTC

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