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#300074 - 09/25/21 11:10 PM Re: Favorite water filter & purification... [Re: teacher]
groo Offline
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Registered: 11/02/03
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Loc: Florida
Are there any water filters that can be left in a car in the winter?

Seems like all of 'em stop working after one or two freeze / thaw cycles.

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#300075 - 09/26/21 11:18 AM Re: Favorite water filter & purification... [Re: teacher]
Ren Offline
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Registered: 11/05/07
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Loc: Wales, UK
One that hasn't been used might survive, it's the water trapped inside freezing that cracks them.


Edited by Ren (09/26/21 11:20 AM)

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#300079 - 09/26/21 02:47 PM Re: Favorite water filter & purification... [Re: teacher]
chaosmagnet Offline
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Registered: 12/03/09
Posts: 3706
Loc: USA
The Sawyer Mini, unused, can survive freeze/thaw cycles undamaged. I believe that other Sawyer filters are the same.

Once they are used, it’s essentially impossible to get all the water out to prevent damage to the fibers if they are exposed to freezing temps again.

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#300080 - 09/26/21 10:46 PM Re: Favorite water filter & purification... [Re: chaosmagnet]
groo Offline
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Ah. I wondered. I didn't know if they were somehow primed at the factory or something that would leave some trace of water present.

So, in the winter, they're essentially single use (or at least, until they freeze again). I can live with that.

Thanks.

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#300083 - 09/26/21 11:04 PM Re: Favorite water filter & purification... [Re: teacher]
chaosmagnet Offline
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My winter plan would be to keep my filter in my coat.

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#300084 - 09/26/21 11:21 PM Re: Favorite water filter & purification... [Re: chaosmagnet]
groo Offline
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Registered: 11/02/03
Posts: 740
Loc: Florida
I'm still working out the details. smile

This is in the context of winterizing the car. I'm redoing the car's kit (all the stuff required by a car... shovel, fixaflat, cables, etc) and my kit (the Unplanned Hiking / Camping kit).

Ideally, I'd like to leave the filter in the bag and forget about it unless I need it. Like you suggest, though, once I do need it, I'll probably need it again soon after, so it makes sense to transfer it to an interior coat pocket.

I have a butane stove and metal nalgene bottle in there, so I could boil water, but I much prefer filtered.

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#300087 - 09/26/21 11:47 PM Re: Favorite water filter & purification... [Re: teacher]
jshannon Offline
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Registered: 02/02/03
Posts: 626
Loc: North Texas
just get a mechanical filter then?

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#300088 - 09/27/21 12:33 AM Re: Favorite water filter & purification... [Re: teacher]
groo Offline
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Registered: 11/02/03
Posts: 740
Loc: Florida
Can you elaborate a little? I'm not sure what you mean by a mechanical filter. Even the grayl says not to let the filter element freeze.

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#300092 - 09/27/21 01:56 PM Re: Favorite water filter & purification... [Re: teacher]
jshannon Offline
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Registered: 02/02/03
Posts: 626
Loc: North Texas
I meant a pump ceramic filter that does not use hollow fiber technology. I was going to name the MSR Sweetwater, but that one may be discontinued. Maybe a Katadyn Hiker Pro or MSR Miniworks.

https://www.msrgear.com/water-treatment/filters-and-purifiers

https://sectionhiker.com/msr-miniworks-ex-water-filter-review/

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#300093 - 09/27/21 02:20 PM Re: Favorite water filter & purification... [Re: jshannon]
M_a_x Offline
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Registered: 08/16/02
Posts: 1179
Loc: Germany
When the ceramic filter is wet, freezing it still can cause cracks. It may be even more vulnerable than hollow fibre as ceramic is more brittle.
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