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#296375 - 06/12/20 04:38 PM Disaster Preparedness Tokyo
Jeanette_Isabelle Offline
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I'm reading Disaster Preparedness Tokyo which is available in English.

https://www.metro.tokyo.lg.jp/english/guide/bosai/index.html

It does have some information specific to Japan. However, even that can easily be adjusted to where ever you are in the world.

It's easy to read, and there are helpful illustrations on every page. Some information can be applied to other disasters besides earthquakes.

Jeanette Isabelle
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#296376 - 06/12/20 06:20 PM Re: Disaster Preparedness Tokyo [Re: Jeanette_Isabelle]
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Thank you very much. An interesting and worthwhile reference.
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#296379 - 06/13/20 02:53 AM Re: Disaster Preparedness Tokyo [Re: Jeanette_Isabelle]
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I vaguely recall that we discussed this a while ago. But it's worth the repeat. A sensible, rational approach is welcome in these angst-ridden times.

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#296432 - 06/20/20 02:22 AM Re: Disaster Preparedness Tokyo [Re: Jeanette_Isabelle]
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Two mentions of water storage caught my eye:

For the illustrative family of 4, they recommended keeping only 12 two liter bottles of the group, so only about 6 liters, or a gallon and a half per person.
FEMA recommends a minimum of 3 gallons per person for a possible need of 3 days; Seattle Emergency Management recommends 1 gallon per person per day for a possible need for 7-10 days.

The Tokyo book however recommends keeping the bathtub full at all times!

I'm wonder how much water would slosh out of the tub at what level of shaking on the Richter scale. . .

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#296433 - 06/20/20 02:57 AM Re: Disaster Preparedness Tokyo [Re: Famdoc]
Phaedrus Offline
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Originally Posted By: Famdoc

The Tokyo book however recommends keeping the bathtub full at all times!

I'm wonder how much water would slosh out of the tub at what level of shaking on the Richter scale. . .



That's where something like the Water B.O.B. would come in handy!

https://www.amazon.com/WaterBOB-Emergenc...88888&psc=1
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#296434 - 06/20/20 03:04 AM Re: Disaster Preparedness Tokyo [Re: Phaedrus]
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If the B.O.B is constantly filled with 100 gal. of water, and always kept in the bathtub as the ad indicates; then how does one take a shower or bath?

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#296435 - 06/20/20 03:52 AM Re: Disaster Preparedness Tokyo [Re: Jeanette_Isabelle]
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I think realistically you can't have the tub constantly full and still use it no matter what method you use. You probably need to use the B.O.B. when there's a foreseeable need or have a second bathroom.
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#296441 - 06/21/20 07:32 AM Re: Disaster Preparedness Tokyo [Re: Famdoc]
Burncycle Offline
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I think some of those 3 or 5 gallon office water dispenser jugs are a convenient mid to long term storage solution that's easy to find locally, even if you don't own a dispenser.

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#296449 - 06/23/20 12:17 AM Re: Disaster Preparedness Tokyo [Re: Famdoc]
EMPnotImplyNuclear Offline
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Originally Posted By: Famdoc

I'm wonder how much water would slosh out of the tub at what level of shaking on the Richter scale. . .


Hi,
I felt one of these two
https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/nc71336726/executive
https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/nc71444201/executive

I was within 15miles
ground level condo
shook for a good amount of seconds (30+ )
felt like it had a lot of vertical movement
I think this one would have emptied the bathtub
but that was 10 years ago

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#296454 - 06/23/20 01:52 AM Re: Disaster Preparedness Tokyo [Re: Burncycle]
EMPnotImplyNuclear Offline
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jugs are good 👍
1 gallon $1 jugs are much easier to move than the rest wink



the disposable water bob stuff makes no sense to me
no sense as a concept
if you really need to use one every year -- build a cistern
store a barrel in the kitchen or in the bathroom wink


no sense as a product
because
Foodgrade clear linear low density drum liners 23x20x98 Inches x 0.98 Mil. Holds 56 gallons. 100/carton.
$57.24, or $.60 per bag

if the bags were $5 it might be more appealing (still a gimmick)



personally i use bathtub water strictly for flushing/washing
in condo i get to practice this once a year at least,
never store more than a dozen gallons
as the water outages are always less than 6 hours

there is always a couple of gallons of emergency flushing water in bleach/soap jugs in case the bathtub wasn't filled

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