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#294873 - 02/20/20 04:26 PM Re: Coronavirus outbreak in China -- now spreading [Re: jds]
LCranston Offline
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Registered: 08/31/09
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Lets get more science

This is a link to data via Johns Hopkins. No hype.


https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6


HERE is a link to WHO's summary (no jokes please)

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019

Here is CDC

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/index.html

An interesting link (not as trusted as WHO or CDC) is
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/

This shows some statistics (again, take EVERYTHING with a grain of salt- the sample sizes and populations are still very limited)

The key questions long term:
How infectious? (still not clear)
How Lethal? (still not clear)


It is too early to get truly good data.

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#294874 - 02/20/20 04:49 PM Re: Coronavirus outbreak in China -- now spreading [Re: jds]
hikermor Offline
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Loc: southern Cal
"It is too early to get truly good data."

We have a winner!!

Obviously, COVID-19 is to be avoided, if at all possible, but the same can be said of the more familiar influenza.

Basically, wash your hands....
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#294877 - 02/20/20 08:31 PM Re: Coronavirus outbreak in China -- now spreading [Re: jds]
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Planning is good. Obsessing is bad. People worry about the wrong stuff all the time.

This virus has killed 2130. that sucks.

the FLU kills ~646,000 people per year, yet almost nobody is scared of the flu.


People are scared of sharks- they kill 38 people per year.

Car/road accidents kill 1.25 million per year worldwide. Few of us are scared to drive.

I like to plan for things I can control.

Love the sections on food to keep on hand, etc.

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#294882 - 02/21/20 06:49 PM Re: Coronavirus outbreak in China -- now spreading [Re: jds]
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-one-sin...od=hp_lead_pos5

If you cannot get to it, use Google to search: How One Singapore Sales Conference Spread Coronavirus Around the World
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#294883 - 02/21/20 08:24 PM Re: Coronavirus outbreak in China -- now spreading [Re: jds]
Ren Offline
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Yeah, the other large group was due to a conference in Bavaria, Germany, though didn't spread as a far and wide, just related to one case in Spain.

https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/...vrsn=9a7406a4_4

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#294884 - 02/21/20 08:25 PM Re: Coronavirus outbreak in China -- now spreading [Re: jds]
chaosmagnet Offline
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Registered: 12/03/09
Posts: 3427
Loc: USA
Sobering.

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#294895 - 02/24/20 12:36 AM Re: Coronavirus outbreak in China -- now spreading [Re: jds]
Russ Offline
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This is an update from Chris Martenson of PeakProsperity.com regarding Covid-19. Coronavirus Cases Doubling Overnight In Many Countries - Peak Prosperity
Quote:
... Covid-19 cases are leaping higher in disparate countries around the globe — doubling overnight in South Korea, Italy and Iran.... It increasingly looks like the only hope countries have of containing covid-19 is to use the draconian mass quarantine efforts that China is enforcing on its populace.
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#294904 - 02/25/20 05:19 PM Re: Coronavirus outbreak in China -- now spreading [Re: jds]
clearwater Offline
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Registered: 03/19/05
Posts: 1163
Loc: Channeled Scablands
Article in Fox News about coronavirus living on surfaces for 9 days. Couldn't quite make out if it was this new type too or just the older kinds.

Also killed by bleach, hydrogen peroxide.

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#294905 - 02/25/20 07:37 PM Re: Coronavirus outbreak in China -- now spreading [Re: jds]
chaosmagnet Offline
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Registered: 12/03/09
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Loc: USA
For a coronavirus in general to survive for nine days on a surface would be pretty amazing and unusual, however I have not yet found any data or science saying that this figure is inaccurate for COVID-19.

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#294906 - 02/25/20 07:50 PM Re: Coronavirus outbreak in China -- now spreading [Re: jds]
Ren Offline
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Registered: 11/05/07
Posts: 260
Loc: Wales, UK
This https://www.journalofhospitalinfection.com/article/S0195-6701(20)30046-3/fulltext seems to be the article Fox was reporting on.

Seems just pulling together previous research on other viruses.



Edited by Ren (02/25/20 07:51 PM)

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