Equipped To Survive Equipped To Survive® Presents
The Survival Forum
Where do you want to go on ETS?

Topic Options
#294273 - 11/25/19 02:13 PM Fire starter
Janysboy Offline

Registered: 03/20/19
Posts: 59
Is there any benefit to mixing petroleum jelly with alcohol hand sanitizer? Seems it would catch a spark more quickly and vould be carried in a squirt bottle. I don't get out in the woods much, so wondered if those with more experience had an opinion?

#294274 - 11/25/19 06:04 PM Re: Fire starter [Re: Janysboy]
chaosmagnet Online   content
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 12/03/09
Posts: 3362
Loc: USA
I use alcohol-based hand sanitizer to remove petroleum product residue from my hands, so I think that they probably wouldn’t work as well together as one or the other. But I haven’t tried it.

When I’ve started fires with hand sanitizer, it burns quickly and hot. Petroleum jelly in a cotton ball burns more slowly and not as hot. Usually I prefer the latter.

#294275 - 11/25/19 07:13 PM Re: Fire starter [Re: Janysboy]
Russ Offline

Registered: 06/02/06
Posts: 5333
Okay I haven’t tried this but here it is.

Vikings Used a Gross Survival Firestarter. Here’s How to Make It

... To start fires, the Vikings would use a type of fungus called Fomes fomentariuswhich is found in Europe, North America, and Asia.

It is better known by the names Tinder Fungus, Hoof Fungus, Touchwood, or False Tinder Fungus.

Now, a lot of fungi make great tinder for starting fires with sparks. But the Vikings didn’t just carry around the Tinder Fungus. They transformed it into something even more ignitable.

First the Vikings would prepare the Tinder Fungus by cutting away the exterior pieces. The interior pieces were cut into thin slices.

The fungus slices were beaten until they started to become soft, flexible, and resemble felt.

The fungi “felt” was charred in the same way that char cloth is made – by burning it in an oxygen-less container. Making char cloth isn’t anything new to survivalists. But the Vikings took it a step further.

They boiled their fungus char cloth in urine!

Urine contains sodium nitrate, which has very similar chemical properties as potassium nitrate (the “saltpeter” found in gunpowder”). ...

#294276 - 11/25/19 09:29 PM Re: Fire starter [Re: Janysboy]
Janysboy Offline

Registered: 03/20/19
Posts: 59
My thinking was the alcohol would burn hot and the petroleum jelly would continue to burn for several minutes. With a squirt bottle, you wouldn't have to remove your gloves to shred the cotton ball.

#294285 - 11/26/19 01:50 PM Re: Fire starter [Re: Janysboy]
hikermor Offline
Geezer in Chief

Registered: 08/26/06
Posts: 7292
Loc: southern Cal
Hand sanitizer alone is a perfectly decent firestarter and it works as fuel. I have used Purell (62% alcohol) quite well in a trangia stove.

PJ/cotton is a well recommended firestarter
Geezer in Chief

#294327 - 12/07/19 01:23 PM Re: Fire starter [Re: hikermor]
Chisel Offline

Registered: 12/05/05
Posts: 1269
Have you tried mixing methanol (yellow heat) with propyl alcohol (medical alcohol) to get a fuel that is average between the super-hot methanol that is too easy to evaporate, and the propyl alcohol that has more BTU but doesn't burn cleanly?? Does the resulting fire equal that of ethyl alcohol which can be considered as the 'chemical average' of the two ??

#294328 - 12/07/19 05:11 PM Re: Fire starter [Re: Janysboy]
hikermor Offline
Geezer in Chief

Registered: 08/26/06
Posts: 7292
Loc: southern Cal
IANAC (I am not a chemist). I have just used Purell hand sanitizer as a fire starter and fuel on occasion. It's a bit on the pricey side, but it works.. Purell is around 62-70 per cent ethyl alcohol, I believe. Some of the other ingredients must be flammable as well, because it burns very nicely.

I prefer alcohol to Boy Scout Fire Starter (white gas), but either will work if you absolutely, positively need to have a fire.
Geezer in Chief


Moderator:  Alan_Romania, Blast, cliff, Hikin_Jim 
Su M Tu W Th F Sa
1 2 3 4
5 6 7 8 9 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30 31
Who's Online
1 registered (Ren), 320 Guests and 3 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newest Members
MarcusPetz, CBlackRaven, TnSweetie, Sundiver70, Keh
5320 Registered Users
Newest Posts
What you don't see...
by chaosmagnet
04:33 PM
I'll be back in a week or so!
by chaosmagnet
12:53 PM
I'm Moving Out of Hell
by LesSnyder
03:06 AM
Interwoven Overhand Knots (loop knot)
by Phaedrus
09:01 PM
In favor of the sling bag*
by TeacherRO
07/11/20 09:33 PM
Man sets fire at Queen of Peace Catholic Church
by Jeanette_Isabelle
07/11/20 08:12 PM
N95 Substitutes
by Phaedrus
07/09/20 07:08 PM
Hikers, protective gear requirements, and SAR
07/08/20 12:04 AM
Newest Images
Tiny knife / wrench
Handmade knives
2"x2" Glass Signal Mirror, Retroreflective Mesh
Trade School Tool Kit
My Pocket Kit

WARNING & DISCLAIMER: SELECT AND USE OUTDOORS AND SURVIVAL EQUIPMENT, SUPPLIES AND TECHNIQUES AT YOUR OWN RISK. Information posted on this forum is not reviewed for accuracy and may not be reliable, use at your own risk. Please review the full WARNING & DISCLAIMER about information on this site.