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#293794 - 10/10/19 03:04 PM Re: Customizing Your Medical Kit [Re: hikermor]
Russ Offline
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Registered: 06/02/06
Posts: 5237
Loc: SOCAL
Totally agree with Hikermor regarding the importance of a patient survey. In the NOLS Wilderness First Aid course a patient survey is conducted by student during every exercise. That training alone is worth taking the class. I’m sure that an American Red Cross course teaches something similar, but possibly not for situations where calling 9-1-1 is not an option.

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#293795 - 10/10/19 04:20 PM Re: Customizing Your Medical Kit [Re: hikermor]
Jeanette_Isabelle Offline
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Registered: 11/13/06
Posts: 2215
Loc: Somewhere in Florida
I have friends and a sister in the medical field. Because of them, I learned a few things that I may have known otherwise, such as the proper way to wash my hands so that I don't inadvertently contaminate them again. They also taught me how to get a patient's blood pressure.

Other than the gunshot wound class Mom and I took Saturday, which was very helpful, I don't see much opportunity for me to have formal training. There is a college a little more than ten miles away. As I've mentioned, because of my anxiety disorder, I can't be in a car for more than a few miles without being medicated. I have to use that medication (Lorazepam, 1MG) sparingly.

I know what you are saying. Knowledge is more important than the tools. And there is only so much I can learn by reading books and practicing on myself. My hands-on experience is limited to cuts, scrapes, bumps, bruises, burns, changing dressings, sprung ankles and a door slamming on my hand.

That said, I do have some tools I'm not trained to use, such as decompression needles, in the event a person there knows the procedure but lacks the equipment.

Acropolis5 suggested a #11 scalpel. I may get one for the same reason I have decompression needles. He also suggested safety googles, which I did not buy because of the lack of space; it is impressive what I can get into my medical bag if I do a bit of rearranging.

Since no one has objected to removing the hot and cold pack to make space for the blood pressure cuff and stethoscope, that is what I will do.

Jeanette Isabelle
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#293797 - 10/10/19 05:31 PM Re: Customizing Your Medical Kit [Re: Jeanette_Isabelle]
Russ Offline
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Registered: 06/02/06
Posts: 5237
Loc: SOCAL
How near are you to Orlando? REI & NOLS are sponsoring Wilderness Medicine Classes at the Mah-Kah-Wee Program Center, NE of Orlando.
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#293799 - 10/10/19 06:05 PM Re: Customizing Your Medical Kit [Re: Russ]
Jeanette_Isabelle Offline
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Registered: 11/13/06
Posts: 2215
Loc: Somewhere in Florida
My current location to Orlando, FL, is 76.6 miles.

Jeanette Isabelle
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#293801 - 10/10/19 10:45 PM Re: Customizing Your Medical Kit [Re: Jeanette_Isabelle]
Jeanette_Isabelle Offline
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Registered: 11/13/06
Posts: 2215
Loc: Somewhere in Florida
I talked with Mom. Though we're on the same page regarding what is likely to happen in the future, she's not convinced with the idea of taking a wilderness first aid class. The issues are costs, distance and keeping our skills current.

She, instead, recommended something I'm already doing, study the books we have and practice what I learn in the books.

Jeanette Isabelle
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“Trust me, this is not gonna end well!” — Pleakley, Lilo & Stitch

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#294027 - 11/03/19 01:29 PM Re: Customizing Your Medical Kit [Re: Jeanette_Isabelle]
Jeanette_Isabelle Offline
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Registered: 11/13/06
Posts: 2215
Loc: Somewhere in Florida
I added safety glasses, the #11 scalpel, blood pressure cuff and stethoscope as recommended. I also added a few more clove kits for a total of six. To add the blood pressure cuff and stethoscope, I had to remove the hot and cold pack and replace the 4" elastic bandage with a 3". I also had to remove the Kelly Forceps, something that was recommended to me previously.

MEDICAL INFORMATION / TRIAGE
(1) Wilderness & Travel Medicine
(1) Tactical Combat Casualty Reference Card
(4) Tactical Combat Casualty Care Card
(1) Fresnel Lens

PERSONAL PROTECTION
(1) Biohazard Waste Bag
(1) Rescue Mask, Soft Case
(6) Personal Antimicrobial Wipe
(2) Emergency/Survival Blanket
(2) Respirator Mask
(6) Bear Claw Glove Kit
(1) Crews Safety Glass - BearKat

BLEEDING
(2) Combat Application Tourniquet, Rescue Orange
(1) QuikClot, 25 g
(2) Trauma Bandage, 4"
(4) Compressed Gauze

AIRWAY
(2) Bolin Chest Seal
(1) Hyfin Vent Chest Seal Twin Pack
(2) Nasopharyngeal Airway w/ Lube, 28 Fr
(2) ARS Decompression Needle, 10 g x 3.25"

WOUND / BLISTER / BURN
(3) Burn Jel, 3.5 g
(1) 30 Band-Aid, 6 Knuckle, 6 Moleskin
(1) Durapore Tape, 1"
(1) Stretch Gauze, 3" x 12 yds.
(1) Wound Closure Strips, 0.25" x 4"
(2) Non-Adherent Dressing, 3" x 4"
(5) Sterile Gauze Pad, 3" x 3"
(6) Povidone-Iodine Prep Pad

IMMOBILIZATION
(1) Elastic Bandage Wrap, 3" x 4.5 yds.
(1) Splint, Orange, 4.25" x 36"
(2) Cravat Triangular Bandage

MEDICATION
(1) Eye Wash, 4 oz.
(2) Glucose, 15 g
(6) Aspirin, 2/pk (Analgesic)
(6) Diamode, 1/pk (Anti-diarrheal)
(6) Diotame, 2/pk (Stomach)
(6) Diphen, 1/pk (Antihistamine)
(6) Hydrocortisone 1% Creme, 1.5 g
(6) Ibuprofen, 2/pk (Anti-inflammatory)
(6) Triple Antibiotic Ointment, 0.9 g
(2) Hydration Powder
(1) Insect Bite Treatment
(1) Activated Charcoal

INSTRUMENTS
(1) Catheter Tip, 18G
(1) Digital Thermometer
(1) EMT Shears, 7.25"
(1) Irrigation Syringe, 20 mL, Luer Lock Tip
(1) Scalpel, Sterile, #11
(1) Tweezers
(3) Safety Pins, 2"
(1) Blood Pressure Kit
(1) Disposable Penlight
(1) Stethoscope, Sprague
(1) Flat Duct Tape, 1.89" x 2 yds.

I know several of you have been pushing for a headlamp. Except for an empty pocket that I have reserved for a dental kit, there is no room for a light other than the penlight.

Jeanette Isabelle
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“Trust me, this is not gonna end well!” — Pleakley, Lilo & Stitch

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#294028 - 11/03/19 03:05 PM Re: Customizing Your Medical Kit [Re: Jeanette_Isabelle]
hikermor Online   content
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Registered: 08/26/06
Posts: 7076
Loc: southern Cal
A head light should be readily available as part of your normal gear. There are plenty of times when both hands will be occupied and in that case, you will be forced to put the penlight in your mouth. Drooling on the patient is universally frowned upon.....

It is perfectly permissible to hand carry a head light, and there are situations where this is preferable, but it is often advantageous to switch from one mode to the other.
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