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#293525 - 09/20/19 12:29 PM Gun Shot Wound Class on the Sabbath
Jeanette_Isabelle Offline

Registered: 11/13/06
Posts: 2180
Loc: Somewhere in Florida
Mom and I were looking for such a class as this. We found one; it will be taught on the Sabbath (Saturday). We discussed it.

The decision, for the most part, made its self when Mom posed this question: Do we let someone die because keeping the Sabbath is more important than taking a potentially life-saving class?

Since every tourniquet is different and I don't know which tourniquet we will practice with, I will bring my blue C-A-T trainer.

Jeanette Isabelle
“Trust me, this is not gonna end well!” — Pleakley, Lilo & Stitch

#293527 - 09/20/19 02:21 PM Re: Gun Shot Wound Class on the Sabbath [Re: Jeanette_Isabelle]
Russ Offline

Registered: 06/02/06
Posts: 5209
A triangle bandage can make a very nice tourniquet, all you need is something (like a 6” dowel or stick) to act as a windlass. Then there’s sucking chest wounds, no tourniquet applies... Don’t limit yourself with presumptions I keep telling myself.

FWIW, $.02,

#293536 - 09/21/19 01:30 AM Re: Gun Shot Wound Class on the Sabbath [Re: Jeanette_Isabelle]
Janysboy Offline

Registered: 03/20/19
Posts: 16
I keep several tampons and some plastic wrap in my medical kit. In case of a gunshot wound that penetrates the abdomen, the tampon can be inserted into the wound and direct pressure can be applied. For a sucking chest wound, slap the plastic wrap over the wound and apply direct pressure.

#293537 - 09/21/19 02:11 AM Re: Gun Shot Wound Class on the Sabbath [Re: Jeanette_Isabelle]
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Registered: 12/03/09
Posts: 3193
Loc: USA
The CoTCCC is, in my opinion, the definitive source of evidence-based medical recommendations for traumatic injury, and I’ve been fortunate to train with some true professionals who have both military and civilian paramedic trauma experience.

If I recall correctly CoTCCC has approved the SOFTT-W, CAT, and SAM XT. I’ve used all three in training, The SOFTT-W is best for buddy-aid. The CAT and SAM XT work for buddy-aid and are superior for self-aid.

CoTCCC also recommends against the use of tampons for penetrating injuries. You’re better off using compression bandages, and/or packing the wound with gauze, or better still one of the approved hemostatic gauzes.

#293538 - 09/21/19 02:44 AM Re: Gun Shot Wound Class on the Sabbath [Re: chaosmagnet]
Russ Offline

Registered: 06/02/06
Posts: 5209
For those unfamiliar with the acronym — Committee on Tactical Combat Casualty Care (CoTCCC)
Tactical combat casualty care - Wiki

#293644 - 10/02/19 10:46 PM Re: Gun Shot Wound Class on the Sabbath [Re: Jeanette_Isabelle]
DaveL Offline

Registered: 10/03/18
Posts: 21
Thanks Russ
Too many acronyms not enough time🤪


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