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#290789 - 10/06/18 08:47 PM Re: Preparing less [Re: Russ]
Jeanette_Isabelle Offline
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Registered: 11/13/06
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Loc: Emerald City, OZ
Originally Posted By: Russ
Which is one reason that people should always have a Plan B. Like all emergency situations which require evacuation, most people will not decide to leave until after the planes stop flying.

Unless you decided to leave early because you and a remnant were able to interoperate the writing on the wall.

Jeanette Isabelle
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#290791 - 10/06/18 09:18 PM Re: Preparing less [Re: Jeanette_Isabelle]
Herman30 Offline
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Registered: 08/08/06
Posts: 232
Loc: Finland
Originally Posted By: Jeanette_Isabelle

How else are we supposed to flee outside the country?

Jeanette Isabelle

Perhaps you just have to face the fact that there might be situations when you canīt.
The USA (+Canada) is such a large continent that if something happens to make you want to leave (where? To Europe? To Africa?) one might suspect it is such a large thing that you canīt escape it anywhere on the planet.


Edited by Herman30 (10/06/18 09:22 PM)

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#290831 - 10/10/18 03:09 PM Re: Preparing less [Re: Tjin]
Michael2 Offline
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Registered: 10/07/04
Posts: 25
> I'm quite surprised by some discussion about certain gear.

As my mother says, "Everyone needs a hobby."

Discussing, buying, trading, collecting, playing with gear is FUN, at least for some of us.

For myself, I try to put gear into 3 categories: preparedness, entertainment, and paranoia.

All three are legitimate categories, it's just important to make sure which is which.

Yet another flashlight, knife or multitool to add to the dozens I've already got? Ok, folks, let's be honest, that's entertainment, we're way out of the preparedness category. I like flashlights. If I want to spend $20 on my birthday for another one, that's just fine.

Accumulating geiger counters and iodine pills and fallout shelters, given I'm a few miles from a major city, i.e. target? For ME, I'm going to call that paranoia. Others may disagree, and that's fine, too. Do I plan to survive a nuclear war? ("No, Mr. Bond, I expect you to die.") But if it helps you to sleep knowing that you have a Geiger counter, that is justification for buying one, as long as you can afford it.

Storing water reasonable amounts of water?: Preparedness.

And as anyone who has looked at expensive backpacking equipment knows, going lightweight and lean can sometimes be an expensive hobby of its own.

I think it's great to hear about everyone else's outlook on preparedness. Even if I would put something in a different category (entertainment, preparedness, paranoia) than someone else, I enjoy learning about different approaches.

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#290832 - 10/10/18 04:48 PM Re: Preparing less [Re: Tjin]
hikermor Online   content
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Registered: 08/26/06
Posts: 6580
Loc: southern Cal
"And as anyone who has looked at expensive backpacking equipment knows, going lightweight and lean can sometimes be an expensive hobby of its own."

Well, yes and no on this statement.

I am fortunate in that my backpacking gear often was used in job related field work tasks, giving it a double justification.

I would also make the point that doing light weight does not necessarily entail buying expensive gear, but is more of a process of determining your basic, fundamental needs, and searching for gear that is versatile, often filling more than one function, and developing a system that works for you. It well might not be a system that works for me. We are all individuals.

In buying gear, careful thought is necessary. Quality gear is not for sale at cheap prices. But I learned long ago, that good gear, carefully chosen, gives outstanding value and service, especially if it is versatile and multi-use. It is usually more economical to buy a quality item, say a sleeping bat, once, and use it for twenty plus years than to buy a succession of cheapo items which wear out quickly and that don't work as well.

Most of the gear that I will depend upon in a survival situation is repurposed outdoor gear, just slightly redeployed when raw, screaming wilderness arrives at my doorstep.
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#290836 - 10/10/18 10:32 PM Re: Preparing less [Re: Michael2]
chaosmagnet Online   content
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Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 12/03/09
Posts: 2946
Loc: USA
Originally Posted By: Michael2
Yet another flashlight, knife or multitool to add to the dozens I've already got? Ok, folks, let's be honest, that's entertainment, we're way out of the preparedness category. I like flashlights. If I want to spend $20 on my birthday for another one, that's just fine.


Are you able to write me a note excusing me from flashlight-related discussions? For Mrs. chaosmagnet?

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#290837 - 10/11/18 02:08 AM Re: Preparing less [Re: chaosmagnet]
Michael2 Offline
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Registered: 10/07/04
Posts: 25
I'm just a Stranger in this town - I don't think I dare write a note for the Sheriff!

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#290838 - 10/11/18 12:01 PM Re: Preparing less [Re: Michael2]
chaosmagnet Online   content
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Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 12/03/09
Posts: 2946
Loc: USA
Originally Posted By: Michael2
I'm just a Stranger in this town - I don't think I dare write a note for the Sheriff!


She doesnít know that!

When I use this color for my text Iím speaking ex cathedra as Blastís deputy. Otherwise Iím another participant. Fortunately, the workload moderating ETS is quite light.

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#290839 - 10/11/18 12:56 PM Re: Preparing less [Re: Tjin]
quick_joey_small Offline
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Registered: 01/13/09
Posts: 489
Loc: UK
Jeanette Isabelle wrote:
> How else are we supposed to flee outside the country?

The US has two long land borders with other countries.
Florida where you are is only 60 miles from the Bahamas.
qjs

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#290840 - 10/11/18 07:06 PM Re: Preparing less [Re: quick_joey_small]
Jeanette_Isabelle Offline
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Registered: 11/13/06
Posts: 1863
Loc: Emerald City, OZ
Originally Posted By: quick_joey_small
Florida where you are is only 60 miles from the Bahamas.

That would require a plane or a ship which goes back to my original question.

Jeanette Isabelle
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"When you're up to your [neck] in alligators, it's hard to remember that your initial objective was to drain the swamp." -- Floridian proverb

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#290841 - 10/12/18 02:34 AM Re: Preparing less [Re: Jeanette_Isabelle]
dougwalkabout Offline
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Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 02/03/07
Posts: 2719
Loc: Alberta, Canada
Originally Posted By: Jeanette_Isabelle
Originally Posted By: quick_joey_small
Florida where you are is only 60 miles from the Bahamas.

That would require a plane or a ship which goes back to my original question.

Jeanette Isabelle


It seems the OP has been hijacked.

Perhaps this conversation should have its own thread?

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