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#287624 - 01/05/18 10:58 AM Re: Micro Photon and food spoilage [Re: hikermor]
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Originally Posted By: hikermor
After wrestling with some of the junk I have used in the past, I am very happy that light, any light, emerges when I mash on the switch.


Sayeth the carbide lamp guy!

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#287625 - 01/05/18 01:05 PM Re: Micro Photon and food spoilage [Re: Montanero]
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That isn't necessarily true. Food contaminated with botulism is not safe to eat after cooking. This is not due to the bactirium, but rather the toxins produced by the bactirium which do not go away with cooking.

That said, smell it. If it still smells good then it is "PROBABLY" still good. Vacuum packed food does last longer un-refrigerated in my experience.

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#287626 - 01/05/18 02:29 PM Re: Micro Photon and food spoilage [Re: Bingley]
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Botulism is very rare and needs a very narrow range of environmental conditions to grow and build up the toxin: low oxygen, salt, acid, etc. Think canned foods. Meat that has been unrefrigerated for a few hours will not develop botulism. Meat that has been rotting in the open air will almost certainly not develop botulism. If rotten meat is cooked well (high heat for a long time) it will not hurt you. Been there, done that, multiple times. You can eat old road kill if you cook it well enough.

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#287627 - 01/05/18 04:03 PM Re: Micro Photon and food spoilage [Re: Bingley]
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Loved my carbide lamps back in the day!! Heat and light all in one, usually reliable appliance. Now my lamps are just treasured antiques, sitting on the shelf.

The problem is obtaining and maintaining carbide, which decomposes readily around humidity and water. Just not worth the hassle.

I have embraced 18650 batteries, with their great capacity, inserted into beautifully designed lights. But they will never replace the warmth of a hand held carbide, cradled in one's hands, walking along a trail on a cold, frosty night....

The geezer will now be silent.
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#287628 - 01/05/18 05:51 PM Re: Micro Photon and food spoilage [Re: Bingley]
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Hikermor, have you gotten rid of your oil lamps yet?

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#287629 - 01/05/18 07:01 PM Re: Micro Photon and food spoilage [Re: Montanero]
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Of course not!! Who would ever do such a thing!

Actually, I believe there is an old kerosene lamp out in the garage, inherited from a previous owner, as well as a couple of Coleman mantle lanterns. I don't think I am actually counting on them for anything useful. Much easier and probably safer to rely on solar and electric lighting....
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#287630 - 01/05/18 10:13 PM Re: Micro Photon and food spoilage [Re: Bingley]
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I usually take an ice chest to the grocery store. I also put several half gallon bottles full of ice in the ice chest. This way even if I spend another hour or so running errands then the food is still safe.

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#287711 - 01/10/18 04:52 AM Re: Micro Photon and food spoilage [Re: Bingley]
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I’ve carried various Photon lights on my key chain almost since they were first marketed. I currently use a yellow bulb , Photon Freedom , with the cowl over the bulb sides. I perceive more beam projection ( unscientific impression) with the cowl and certainly less distracting side scatter. I chose yellow light based on the info on the Photon site. Yellow seemed the best combo of illumination, battery life and night vision preservation. Check out the descriptions on their website. I avoided red as I live urban. I do not want to be mistaken for a “ shooter” when turning the light on or changing aim point.

NOTE: I carry the Freedom as a backup to my Fenix E05. It serves well in that role. HOWEVER, the push switch is too easily depressed in the pocket, by keys, etc., resulting in a depleted light. So I carry mine on the neck dangler, switch faced in. That prevents accidental “on”.

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#287715 - 01/10/18 08:37 AM Re: Micro Photon and food spoilage [Re: Bingley]
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I recently replaced my EDC Fenix L1D light to a Nitecore Tip. These newer keychain sized lights have really taken off in brightness and usability. Also, rechargeable by USB, so that part is also easy.

The old micro Photon honestly never impressed me that much
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#287730 - 01/10/18 05:55 PM Re: Micro Photon and food spoilage [Re: Bingley]
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The point about not using red light in an urban environment seems like a good one. You don't want to turn on your light, only to hear someone yelling, "He's got a gun!!!" Thanks for providing this tip!

Personally, the Micro Photon works for me. I want something light and small, and I can compromise on the lumens. I usually have a much more powerful light in my purse. I'm sure the Feix L1D and Nitecore Tip are brighter and more capable, but they are a little too big for me.

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