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#287671 - 01/08/18 06:00 AM Re: New fraud: drinking raw water [Re: Bingley]
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Well fad or not I'll not gonna throw away my Sawyer Mini anytime soon. The company pushing this stuff exists and you buy from them right now so it's not a fabrication.
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#287706 - 01/10/18 02:24 AM Re: New fad: drinking raw water [Re: Bingley]
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Originally Posted By: Bingley
But we still think you're 18. laugh

I should have realized I'm the baby of the group, the youngest whom everyone dotes over.

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#288152 - 02/10/18 04:54 AM Re: New fad: drinking raw water [Re: Bingley]
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#288153 - 02/10/18 07:27 AM Re: New fad: drinking raw water [Re: Bingley]
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I think the Slate piece fires wide to the left. It's certainly true that in some places the water is safe but there are plenty of places where it's not. But I suppose each person can decide for themselves if the water is safe without further treatment.
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#288156 - 02/10/18 08:42 PM Re: New fad: drinking raw water [Re: Phaedrus]
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I don't find the referenced article very convincing. I have been hiking in back country and wilderness for more than sixty years, and drinking untreated water for much of that time, less now than then. The woods are more crowded now, and the variety of means for rendering water safe to drink has increased considerably. The most reliable and simplest is usually boiling, often done anyway - what is the point of drinking, if not tea or coffee (maybe beer?).

I have a filter, which I use occasionally. It wasn't that expensive, not that heavy. I have never contracted a water borne illness and I want to keep that record intact. I will still drink from a pristine source, but they are harder and harder to find.

I also rope up on exposed terrain, and wear seat belts....
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#288158 - 02/11/18 04:10 AM Re: New fad: drinking raw water [Re: hikermor]
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Originally Posted By: hikermor
I don't find the referenced article very convincing.
Me neither. Seems like it relies on one rather dated study, from one area in California. I'm highly suspicious that other areas, perhaps below the alpine, or in places with significant wildlife populations would show a different story.

Outside Online has a nice rebuttal: Actually, Slate, You Really Should Filter Your Water. As Outside notes in their Pt #4, it is quite easy and inexpensive to kill bad critters in your water, even without a filter. Outsides Point #5 is also right on, in that there was apparently no control group.

Originally Posted By: hikermor
I also rope up on exposed terrain, and wear seat belts....

A wise man. No doubt that has contributed to your longevity and achievement of esteemed geezer status! smile


Edited by AKSAR (02/11/18 04:10 AM)
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#288159 - 02/11/18 02:04 PM Re: New fad: drinking raw water [Re: AKSAR]
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One more comment - As a confirmed desert rat, with a lot of time logged in the Arizona desert, if I had to drink from a questionable water source when dehydrated, I would do so (and have done so a time or two). If you don't drink, you won't get back to town. Once back, your ailment is treatable, but you have got to get back to town first.
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#288161 - 02/11/18 09:17 PM Re: New fad: drinking raw water [Re: hikermor]
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https://www.summitpost.org/drinking-water-in-the-backcountry/789170

Just ran across the above article which treats the subject very well (so to speak). I like his concluding statement - "If all else fails, just boil it."
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