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#285417 - 08/13/17 05:28 PM Re: Ventura just issued a preparedness guide for nukes [Re: Mark_R]
wildman800 Offline
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Registered: 11/09/06
Posts: 2800
Loc: La-USA
I respectively disagree.

1st rule: Don't live in a target area.

2nd rule: Maintain a decent Intel system.

I'm in DefCon 4. That's very easy to maintain indefinitely.

DefCon 3: Easy to attain and maintain for long periods of time.

DefCon 2: Easy to attain and maintain for short periods of time.

DefCon 1: Easy to attain and maintain long enough for the situation to peak and either it will quickly ease up or it goes for broke. Need will dictate one's endurance.
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#285419 - 08/13/17 05:51 PM Re: Ventura just issued a preparedness guide for nukes [Re: wildman800]
Jeanette_Isabelle Online   content
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Registered: 11/13/06
Posts: 1557
Loc: North Central Florida
Originally Posted By: wildman800
1st rule: Don't live in a target area.

I 100% agree, I would not live in a targeted area. I'm living on the fringe, if not now, later.

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#285420 - 08/13/17 06:42 PM Re: Ventura just issued a preparedness guide for nukes [Re: Mark_R]
Pete Offline
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Registered: 02/20/09
Posts: 1307
I doubt this crisis is over yet. But i do think that the OP asked a perfectly legitimate question. And the points that have been brought up do represent real issues.

I have no idea what the DefCon status is.
But if the crisis continues, i might buy a large flat-screen TV and go to BeerCon 1.

BTW, i do live in a target zone.



Edited by Pete (08/13/17 06:43 PM)

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#285423 - 08/13/17 06:56 PM Re: Ventura just issued a preparedness guide for nukes [Re: Pete]
hikermor Offline
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Registered: 08/26/06
Posts: 5923
Loc: southern Cal
I live in a highly likely earthquake prone area and I try to be prepared for that eventuality. Realistically, there will be NO prior notification of the event. A system currently under development might give advance warning ranging from a few seconds to a few minutes, depending upon the location of the epicenter.

My alert status, on the DefCon scale, is exactly DefCon 4.32. I follow elements of W800's measures nearly all the time; e.e; I try to keep my gas tank filled at all times; vital gear placed in secure locations around my property and outside the house, etc. It is safe to say I live in a target zone, but it is nice country. I manageto enjoy life now and then.

With respect to target zones, there are those that nukes are intended to hit, and there are those that are actually hit; they are not necessarily the same, I'll wager. And then there is the issue of fallout. It is probably not the best situation to be downwind of the mushrooming cloud.

Even if an adversary is turned into a glowing, radioactive pit, one has to wonder about the eventual effect of radiation, probably circulated world-wide, on the "winners"?
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#285424 - 08/13/17 07:11 PM Re: Ventura just issued a preparedness guide for nukes [Re: hikermor]
wildman800 Offline
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Registered: 11/09/06
Posts: 2800
Loc: La-USA
Read On the Beach by Neville Chute and Pulling Through by Dean Ing.

Another good book on this subject is War Day by Whitley Strieber and Jim Kunnetka
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#285427 - 08/13/17 08:03 PM Re: Ventura just issued a preparedness guide for nukes [Re: wildman800]
adam2 Offline
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Registered: 05/23/08
Posts: 386
Loc: Somerset UK
Some vintage advertising that might become relevant again.

youtube link

Are your community shelters stocked with these supplies ? I fear that these days that most of the shelters no longer exist, let alone contain serviceable supplies.

O/T trivia, can anyone see what is wrong with the restored polarised light sign that is shown ?

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#285428 - 08/13/17 08:49 PM Re: Ventura just issued a preparedness guide for nukes [Re: adam2]
Russ Online   content
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Registered: 06/02/06
Posts: 4554
Loc: SOCAL
LOL, I saw one of the civil defense shelter signs once and followed it to what should have been a CD shelter. It was storage for admin supplies -- copier paper and such. No survival supplies at all. 50 years ago that may have been a shelter but today, not so much. Yes, that building would be a target.

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#285429 - 08/13/17 10:58 PM Re: Ventura just issued a preparedness guide for nukes [Re: Mark_R]
Pete Offline
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Registered: 02/20/09
Posts: 1307
This is the story of one person who was extremely close to an exploding nuclear bomb. You would think it would be impossible to survive, if you are inly 300 meters from ground zero. But its not.

https://www.inicom.com/hibakusha/akiko.html

it should be explained that the atomic bombs in Japan (1945) were exploded in the air. but just the same, being almost directly underneath an explosion is an extremely serious incident. Nevertheless, survival is possible.

The current situation with N. Korea is being exploited for hysteria - especially by Kim Jong-Un himself. I doubt that N. Korea has this capability today. But it is better to take preventive action, hopefully through meaningful negotiations, before they do get this capability.


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#285446 - 08/14/17 04:52 PM Re: Ventura just issued a preparedness guide for nukes [Re: Mark_R]
Ian Online   content
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Registered: 05/15/07
Posts: 171
Loc: Scotland
Does anyone carry an eyepatch, to be worn when the threat is high, so if they are caught by a flash they only lose one eye? UK 'V' bomber pilots wore one whilst in the air.

P.S. I knew a Brit who was under half a mile from GZ at Nagasaki. He was a POW and labouring that day. When the air raid warning sounded he was escorted to an ordinary air raid shelter by his guard.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1...tion-offer.html

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#285459 - 08/15/17 05:06 AM Re: Ventura just issued a preparedness guide for nukes [Re: Mark_R]
Pete Offline
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Registered: 02/20/09
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Ian ... very interesting stories .. thanks for posting.

yes your idea of the eyepatch would probably save one eye, which might be crucial. It's brutal though ... all the exposed skin will be burned away.

It's noticeable that some of the British POW's were exposed to the notorious 'black rain' of the atomic blast. Yet they lived into their 70's. Quite remarkable. Black rain is drops of radioactive mud that fall from the sky ... like raindrops. Only in close proximity to the explosion. Its very nasty stuff.

Once again, thanks for posting. I had never heard of these British POW's before.


Edited by Pete (08/15/17 05:08 AM)

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