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#283668 - 02/06/17 07:25 PM Ridiculous carry - the things I've seen
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I'm making a list...And its a doozy. All the ridiculous things I seen in people's EDC, go bags, GHB and other kits. What have you seen that defies logic or good sense?

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#283673 - 02/06/17 11:23 PM Re: Ridiculous carry - the things I've seen [Re: TeacherRO]
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Oh jeeze. I am probably going to resemble some of these remarks. Here's one that takes the chaosmagnet Ridiculousness Prize for Bulk and Weight:

My car emergency kit contains a pair of very large Channellock pliers...which I've used at the roadside to fix the hood latch of my car, another time to help pull part of my car off after a wreck so it wouldn't drag when I drove to the body shop, and for "emergency" riding toy repair at a friend's house.

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#283675 - 02/07/17 03:41 AM Re: Ridiculous carry - the things I've seen [Re: chaosmagnet]
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I'd say the Channellocks have earned their place. As have the 10" vise-grips in my car kit (with a set of 5" to keep them company) that I would not drive off the yard without. You would not believe the problems you can solve with those two (farm boy talkin' here).


Edited by dougwalkabout (02/07/17 03:43 AM)

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#283679 - 02/07/17 07:01 PM Re: Ridiculous carry - the things I've seen [Re: TeacherRO]
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Same here. Channel lock pliers are part of the "Big 5" that are the core of most tool kits.

Large channel lock pliers
Small slip joint or needle nose pliers
Adjustable large crescent wrench or large vise grips
Bit driver
Hammer


As far as egregious overpacking, it tends to be duplicate knives, lights, fire, and weapons. I've seen way to many EDC's with keychain MT, full size lock knife, a full size MT, keychain light, CR123 tactical light, flint striker, windproof lighter, tactical pen, and a Glock.
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#283680 - 02/07/17 09:49 PM Re: Ridiculous carry - the things I've seen [Re: TeacherRO]
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Yes, my favorite EDC's have 4-6 sharps, 100' of paracord and a fishing kit..for on campus...

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#283681 - 02/07/17 10:35 PM Re: Ridiculous carry - the things I've seen [Re: TeacherRO]
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Nothing that I would call ridiculous, my EDC is pocket carry, no room for superfluous gear. I've downsized my carry -- wallet, keys, cell phone, SAK Spartan, folding/collapsible scissors, 1xAAA light. That's it.

Everything else is in the truck, that's a serious kit with lots of redundancy, largish FAK and a real tool box -- but I can't call that EDC. Even what I used to call my EDC backpack is staying in the truck these days. I EDC minimal gear that I use daily, the idea being that in my situation I can always get to the truck.

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#283682 - 02/08/17 02:01 PM Re: Ridiculous carry - the things I've seen [Re: TeacherRO]
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Honestly, and without trying to spark debate, I'm still sometimes taken aback by the need for guns & ammo for a little run to the corner store, but I get that that's a cultural thing. Multiple knives probably fits into this category for me too, but I have been guilty of that myself a time or twelve. wink

I try not to judge other people too harshly, but two things that always make me tilt my head and think "HUH?" when I see them in people's EDC are handcuffs and lock pick kits. They just seem too far fetched to me, but to each his own.
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#283683 - 02/08/17 03:17 PM Re: Ridiculous carry - the things I've seen [Re: bacpacjac]
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Being in western CA, much like northern CA where you call home, carrying a handgun is not an option for me. However, were it an option and I felt the need was real, then I'd carry as a routine, because once you start making exceptions and rationalize not carrying such as, "it's just a 5 minute run to Walmart", that's when you will realize the parking lot at Walmart isn't the safest place. So you carry all the time.

My limited/reduced carry is strictly for the benign environment I'm in now and the limitations I impose on me (I don't go shopping at night). Take the SAK for example; I'd found myself using a Benchmade 710 (awesome 3.9" blade) for utility cutting while out shopping, stuff my SAK Spartan does well with its small blade -- so I traded the 710 for a Spartan. I can add the BM 710 or RSK Mk1 to my pocket easily, but why carry gear that has never been needed in predominantly suburbia, when something more sociably acceptable does the job better. Just because why? Rhetorical Q, but I don't carry a fire kit in SOCAL either; it's all in the truck.

Everybody has their individual carry requirements and it may be situational or simply personal preference; I don't care, why should I judge. That said, the guy who goes hiking with just the gear I carry daily would be irresponsible imo. There are advantages to having a truck or a car with a big trunk, but that advantage does not extend to a hiking path where things can go south very quickly.

$.02, YMMV

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#283685 - 02/08/17 07:17 PM Re: Ridiculous carry - the things I've seen [Re: TeacherRO]
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the latest -- 100' of climbing rope. and both 265 to 1,100 rounds. (1 bullet = 1 round)


Edited by TeacherRO (02/09/17 04:57 AM)

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#283688 - 02/08/17 08:50 PM Re: Ridiculous carry - the things I've seen [Re: TeacherRO]
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Originally Posted By: TeacherRO
the latest -- 100' of climbing rope. and both 265 & 1,100 rounds.


First dumb question: What are 265 & 1,100 rounds?
Second: Why climbing rope? I normally have some type of utility line on me, but why 8-9KN climbing rope
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#283691 - 02/09/17 04:14 AM Re: Ridiculous carry - the things I've seen [Re: TeacherRO]
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#283692 - 02/09/17 04:46 AM Re: Ridiculous carry - the things I've seen [Re: bacpacjac]
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Originally Posted By: bacpacjac
Honestly, and without trying to spark debate, I'm still sometimes taken aback by the need for guns & ammo for a little run to the corner store, but I get that that's a cultural thing.


If I knew when and where there would be trouble, I wouldn't go. Think of it like an EDC habit to always carry a small flashlight, or a SAK or other sharp. You wouldn't, I suspect, think it's weird to bring those things with you for a little run to the corner store.

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#283693 - 02/09/17 04:53 AM Re: Ridiculous carry - the things I've seen [Re: GoatRider]
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As much room as there is in the back of my truck, it does not match the capacity of an "extra-dimensional plot space", not even close -- so no 10' pole. wink

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#283700 - 02/09/17 07:36 AM Re: Ridiculous carry - the things I've seen [Re: Mark_R]
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Originally Posted By: TeacherRO
the latest -- 100' of climbing rope. and both 265 to 1,100 rounds. (1 bullet = 1 round)


Depends on if you need to climb? Although 100' is a bit of a weird lenght.

265 - 1100 rounds for edc seems a bit much. 1000 rounds seems way too much to actually carry, even if you are front line infrantry.

Originally Posted By: Mark_R
Originally Posted By: TeacherRO
the latest -- 100' of climbing rope. and both 265 & 1,100 rounds.


First dumb question: What are 265 & 1,100 rounds?
Second: Why climbing rope? I normally have some type of utility line on me, but why 8-9KN climbing rope


Climbing rope impact force rating can be 8-9kn, but as far as i know that is not how a climbing rope is refered to.
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#283702 - 02/09/17 09:10 PM Re: Ridiculous carry - the things I've seen [Re: GoatRider]
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Because a 6 ft Russian is too heavy <nyuk, nyuk, nyuk>

Seriously, a nose height stave is good for off pavement use.
https://scoutpioneering.com/2014/10/14/scout-staves/

But, I wouldn't consider it an EDC item.
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#283706 - 02/10/17 02:26 PM Re: Ridiculous carry - the things I've seen [Re: Mark_R]
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"Why climbingrope?" That's easy.

Some years ago I did field work in Canyon de Chelly, AZ. It is a vertically walled sandstone canyon with spectacular archaeology. My EDC pack invariably contained, at a minimum, 120 feet of 9mm climbing rope, usually with a swami seat and a couple of carabiners. This was standard,even if no climbing was contemplated. In that kind of country, the need to climb,safely, would be thrust upon you in all sorts of strange ways -lots of war stories.

My SAR pack came to hold about the same minimum amount of gear, but that is a somewhat different sort of situation.

Yesterday, I was a tour guide for a group and I stuck about 20 feet of 8mm cordage into my pack, along with somewhat more FA gear than I normally carry. As Sam Gamgee (LOTR) says, "you always need a bit of rope...."


Edited by hikermor (02/11/17 02:56 PM)
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#283710 - 02/10/17 05:55 PM Re: Ridiculous carry - the things I've seen [Re: GoatRider]
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So I give a ride to this guy carrying a long pole. I asked him if he were a pole vaulter.

He replied-

"No, I am not Polish, I am German, but how did you know my name was Walter?"


30 meters of 8mm climbing rope (about 100 ft) is a standard size for skiing and glacier travel when going light. I also like it for 3rd class terrain and early season
crossing of hard packed snow gullies.

REI glacier rope


Edited by clearwater (02/10/17 06:02 PM)

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#283715 - 02/11/17 02:05 AM Re: Ridiculous carry - the things I've seen [Re: TeacherRO]
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One time, in this forum, a person asked why I carry a 2D MAG-LITE in my bag.

I need to carry a 2D MAG-LITE because . . . a 3D MAG-LITE just would not fit.

Seriously when it comes to flashlights, I'm old school. Flashlights must be American made and run on D cells.

I also like the fact I can get 168 lumens with a run time of 80 hours on three cells.

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#283729 - 02/13/17 02:34 AM Re: Ridiculous carry - the things I've seen [Re: TeacherRO]
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I agree on the maglites! I still carry the mini mag light alot.

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#283741 - 02/13/17 02:59 PM Re: Ridiculous carry - the things I've seen [Re: Jax]
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Maglites were great in their day (70s and 80s) and I was really glad to carry a dependable light then, but they have been eclipsed now by brighter and lighter products.

When I really, really need a light, I can care less about where it was made....
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#283746 - 02/13/17 08:27 PM Re: Ridiculous carry - the things I've seen [Re: hikermor]
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Originally Posted By: hikermor
Maglites were great in their day (70s and 80s) and I was really glad to carry a dependable light then, but they have been eclipsed now by brighter and lighter products.

When I really, really need a light, I can care less about where it was made....


I agree that Maglites were SOTA in '85 but obsolete now. My preference is for CR123a batteries. But by and large, lights is one area where American made lights do hold a huge edge over the imported ones (meaning Chinese). There are some good Chinese brands but if the light simply has to work no matter what I will choosing one made by Malkoff, Elzetta, Peak or (in a pinch) Surefire (with the latter being the last resort).
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#283847 - 02/22/17 09:27 PM Re: Ridiculous carry - the things I've seen [Re: TeacherRO]
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latest - Guy needs a new backpack because his FAK was working through the corners...He was EDCing a full size industrial kit -- the metal kind you mount on the wall...

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#283850 - 02/22/17 10:16 PM Re: Ridiculous carry - the things I've seen [Re: TeacherRO]
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Originally Posted By: TeacherRO
latest - Guy needs a new backpack because his FAK was working through the corners...He was EDCing a full size industrial kit -- the metal kind you mount on the wall...


Good grief! Even when I was guiding for the Sierra Club, I was still able to fit the FAK inside of a gallon bag. And, that included a malleable splint and a Sawyer Extractor.
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#283951 - 03/02/17 01:24 PM Re: Ridiculous carry - the things I've seen [Re: TeacherRO]
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There/s a case to be made for gardening equipment and funfetti....

https://youtu.be/-hVWEefD5ag

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#284105 - 03/28/17 05:03 PM Re: Ridiculous carry - the things I've seen [Re: TeacherRO]
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saw a pack with a full sized roll of duct tape...again

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#284107 - 03/28/17 05:36 PM Re: Ridiculous carry - the things I've seen [Re: TeacherRO]
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My nomination for the worst carry: We were evacuating a fall victim, drunk as usual as the autopsy later revealed, and as were carrying him out, a party descended along the slope - two guys, each with a case (24 cans) of beer - headed for the party! We weren't called back to the area, so presumably they survived.

This was at Tanque Verde Falls, Tucson, AZ - many years ago, but the pattern continues to this day, so I understand.....
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#284113 - 03/30/17 01:41 PM Re: Ridiculous carry - the things I've seen [Re: hikermor]
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haha! That brings back memories...

I ONCE did a portaging trip through Algonquin Park with a friend who insisted bringing two 24s of canned root beer - in one of those old metal Coleman coolers from the 70s that weigh 82 pounds.

As we packed the car for the trip, he thought it would be prudent to go through my pack to make sure I wasn't taking too much unnecessary stuff. It was a classic Venus and Mars stand-off, and I didn't even know about the cooler of pop yet. Needless to say, we never trekked together again. wink
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#284118 - 03/30/17 11:19 PM Re: Ridiculous carry - the things I've seen [Re: TeacherRO]
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Root Beer addiction can be very ugly!
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#284125 - 03/31/17 10:16 PM Re: Ridiculous carry - the things I've seen [Re: wildman800]
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Truly! That was a pretty hairy situation. LOL!
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#284128 - 04/01/17 10:45 AM Re: Ridiculous carry - the things I've seen [Re: TeacherRO]
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It's kind of like the hurricane kits I see all over the internet including road flares. What the heck for?
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#284130 - 04/01/17 04:58 PM Re: Ridiculous carry - the things I've seen [Re: Blacktop]
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It's for when a person needs to flee and ends up stranded alongside the road. Hurricanes need to be able to see stranded motorists so that they can slow down and give the motorists a wide margin as it passes by.

Now do you see how practical these kit designers really are?

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#284182 - 04/09/17 05:32 PM Re: Ridiculous carry - the things I've seen [Re: TeacherRO]
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A Costco sized bottle of ibuprofen. They never bothered to subdivide and/or put it in a smaller container.
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#284215 - 04/12/17 05:35 PM Re: Ridiculous carry - the things I've seen [Re: TeacherRO]
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A pill container is great. 1-4 doses of OTC meds. ( I once traveled with a guy who carried a full sized bottle of shampoo...)

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#284622 - 05/24/17 11:01 PM Re: Ridiculous carry - the things I've seen [Re: TeacherRO]
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Reviewing others various "kits" 6+ sharps.
Probably 4 pounds of knives. And often neither water nor a jacket.

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#285116 - 07/24/17 09:06 PM Re: Ridiculous carry - the things I've seen [Re: TeacherRO]
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I met a hiker that was planning to carry 60 days worth of food. In his pack.

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#285126 - 07/24/17 11:03 PM Re: Ridiculous carry - the things I've seen [Re: TeacherRO]
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Gee, that's only 120 pounds or so......
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#286640 - 10/05/17 04:54 PM Re: Ridiculous carry - the things I've seen [Re: TeacherRO]
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And a hiker who could get everything into his pack...except his guitar.

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