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#283266 - 01/08/17 02:36 PM Re: the 10 essentials...prep for camping/hiking [Re: TeacherRO]
KenK Offline
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When selecting a headlight make sure it can use lithium batteries. They last longer, do better in cold weather, weight less, and DON'T LEAK!

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#283267 - 01/08/17 02:45 PM Re: the 10 essentials...prep for camping/hiking [Re: KenK]
Tjin Offline
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Originally Posted By: KenK
When selecting a headlight make sure it can use lithium batteries. They last longer, do better in cold weather, weight less, and DON'T LEAK!


Well except for my backup lite (Petzl E+lite), I use them frequently enough to run pretty much NiMH all the time. Won't leak either, more frugal in the long term and pretty good performance.
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#283268 - 01/08/17 03:50 PM Re: the 10 essentials...prep for camping/hiking [Re: Tjin]
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Just avoid alkaline batteries like the plague! I put primary lithium bats in lights used only intermittently, and my "work lights" use rechargeables. Things work a lot better that way....
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#283278 - 01/10/17 04:39 PM Re: the 10 essentials...prep for camping/hiking [Re: TeacherRO]
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I find rechargeables undependable. They don't always function in high drain applications and older cameras, GPS etc. Lithiums run out without warning. I bring backups of alkaline by the batch for extended trips and use the free Harbor Freight heavy duty batteries for everyday use in the devices the rechargeables won't function.


Edited by clearwater (01/10/17 04:41 PM)

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#283333 - 01/13/17 10:05 PM Re: the 10 essentials...prep for camping/hiking [Re: clearwater]
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Presumably we are talking about AA and AAA batteries, which makes us pretty much dinosaurs in terms of cutting edge battery technology. Lithium ion batteries, 18650, 14500, and the like, offer some real advantages in terms of capacity and reliability. They also offer snares for the unwary,so one must learn a bit, take precautions, and follow good practices.

I have a Zebralight headlamp that uses 18650s and it is the best headlamp I have ever used, and I will probably acquire more in the future.

One aspect of rechargeables, either NiMH or lithium ion, is their cheaper cost over the lifetime of the batteries. This is rather significant, because I find that a lot of my "precious" run on batteries, and more are on the way.

I also own a solar panel, and have the ability to charge my smaller batteries with nothing but the sun. That could be handy sometime.
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#283527 - 01/24/17 11:47 PM Re: the 10 essentials...prep for camping/hiking [Re: TeacherRO]
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I also recommend reflective gear (hat, belt, pack) -- makes it easier to be found

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#283611 - 01/31/17 04:47 PM Re: the 10 essentials...prep for camping/hiking [Re: TeacherRO]
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I am adding a spare, external cell phone batterey

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#284625 - 05/24/17 11:04 PM Re: the 10 essentials...prep for camping/hiking [Re: TeacherRO]
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Matches and lighters - I recommend buying a 5 pack of Bics for a camping trip.
(Non smokers always forget)

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#284653 - 05/26/17 08:17 PM Re: the 10 essentials...prep for camping/hiking [Re: Tjin]
WesleyH Offline
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Originally Posted By: WesleyH
I don't know that I would ditch the cyalumes so quickly. They are cheap and they have a decent shelf life. (even the cheap .98 cent party versions at Walmart.) They give usable light for 8 to 12 hours and more importantly, they don't have small parts which can get dropped or lost easily.

For the investment, they are a good backup.


Originally Posted By: Tjin
But can be accidentally be activated, takes relatively a lot of space and generate a not so useful light.


Sorry for the delay in getting back to defend my idea. While you have a good point, I find that a .99 cent toothbrush case is the perfect vehicle to store them in. It seems to protect them well, and does not add significant weight. I usually carry 3 or 4 in a midsized kit without problem.

Given their ability to put out light for a good 8 hours and longer, coupled with the idea that swinging one around on a string is a great attractor beacon, I would submit they are certainly worthy of consideration.

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#284655 - 05/27/17 11:27 PM Re: the 10 essentials...prep for camping/hiking [Re: TeacherRO]
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Yes - and my energizer glowstick with a handful of batteries can go 100+ hours...

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