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#282832 - 11/29/16 08:07 PM the 10 essentials...prep for camping/hiking
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note what they recommend for light --

the ten essentials

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#282833 - 11/29/16 08:26 PM Re: the 10 essentials...prep for camping/hiking [Re: TeacherRO]
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Nice. I would strongly urge anyone who asked me to stay away from flashlights that use incandescent bulbs, even with an available spare. LEDs are far more rugged and provide much better runtime at any level of output.

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#282841 - 11/29/16 11:18 PM Re: the 10 essentials...prep for camping/hiking [Re: chaosmagnet]
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I was browsing the cheapo lights in the local big box yesterday amd I don't think you can even find an incandescent bulb these days, although non LEDs (halogens) are possible. I wouldn't bother with anything but an LED. I would nix the cyalumes and just carry spare batteries for the headlamp or another small light (single AAA or AA type).

I note they recommend a CPR mask. Virtually useless unless a member of a full-fledged rescue team.
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#282854 - 11/30/16 02:53 PM Re: the 10 essentials...prep for camping/hiking [Re: TeacherRO]
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wallymart now sells those 6 led 3AAA lights, cheapcheap headlamps, and cheapcheap clip to hat lamps for 1.00 each.

They are cheapcheap, but they work. grabbed 10 the the headlamps for the kids when camping.

when they lose them while running around, I can charge them a dollar (got to TRY teaching responsibility) and hand them another.

Nothing I would want to use rely upon, but kinda nice as spares for relatives, mooching neighbors, etc.

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#282860 - 11/30/16 05:54 PM Re: the 10 essentials...prep for camping/hiking [Re: LCranston]
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Your strategy makes perfect sense for your situation - kids running around and playing, but I have frequently been in situations where dependable lighting was critical - especially caving and SAR where night operations were routine. I am willing to spend a lot more for lights that work reliably (and even then redundancy is a good idea). I don't worry about tint, CRI, etc - I just want something that pushes back the dark when I push on the button.

The cheapo lights available today are far better than the best available thirty years ago.
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#282997 - 12/13/16 06:42 PM Re: the 10 essentials...prep for camping/hiking [Re: TeacherRO]
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...getting headlights for the family.

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#283258 - 01/07/17 11:39 AM Re: the 10 essentials...prep for camping/hiking [Re: TeacherRO]
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I don't know that I would ditch the cyalumes so quickly. They are cheap and they have a decent shelf life. (even the cheap .98 cent party versions at Walmart.) They give usable light for 8 to 12 hours and more importantly, they don't have small parts which can get dropped or lost easily.

For the investment, they are a good backup.

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#283259 - 01/07/17 12:49 PM Re: the 10 essentials...prep for camping/hiking [Re: WesleyH]
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Originally Posted By: WesleyH
I don't know that I would ditch the cyalumes so quickly. They are cheap and they have a decent shelf life. (even the cheap .98 cent party versions at Walmart.) They give usable light for 8 to 12 hours and more importantly, they don't have small parts which can get dropped or lost easily.

For the investment, they are a good backup.


But can be accidently be activated, takes relatively a lot of space and generate a not so usefull light.

When light is essential I generally carry a spare headlight. Your primariy light can not only run out of batteries, but also lost or damaged.
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#283261 - 01/07/17 02:23 PM Re: the 10 essentials...prep for camping/hiking [Re: Tjin]
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I have had very unsatisfactory results with cyalumes, especially for emergency use. With the advent of small LEDs, lighter and brighter, cys are as obsolete as they are undependable.
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#283265 - 01/08/17 03:04 AM Re: the 10 essentials...prep for camping/hiking [Re: TeacherRO]
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I have found light sticks that glow like cyalumes but are battery powered .99 - $5.00 w/ longer shelf life, replaceable batteries and you can test them monthly.

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