#280418 - 04/20/16 04:16 AM
Re: Alaskan Bear Attack
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I hope the young man recovers soon. When something like this happens and the leader gets attacked, I can't help but wonder whether he attempted to protect the class. On another note, I guess higher education has really changed. I noticed the professor is a professor of "outdoor studies." He only has a bachelor's degree, and is current a graduate student in "northern studies." I'm not saying these areas of inquiry cannot be rigorous, challenging, and even intellectually stimulating. But this is quite a far cry from higher education was meant to be. http://www.uas.alaska.edu/dir/fjwagner.html
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#280422 - 04/20/16 01:05 PM
Re: Alaskan Bear Attack
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It was a course in mountaineering - that clearly would be higher education, right?
I really got into outdoor activities - technical climbing, backpacking, caving, primarily - when I was in college. As it turned out, those activities were really useful during my career. Looking back, I learned as much outside the classroom and formal academia as I did within.
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#280432 - 04/21/16 05:43 AM
Re: Alaskan Bear Attack
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It was a course in mountaineering - that clearly would be higher education, right? High altitude education, perhaps...
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#280433 - 04/21/16 06:03 PM
Re: Alaskan Bear Attack
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... On another note, I guess higher education has really changed. I noticed the professor is a professor of "outdoor studies." He only has a bachelor's degree, and is current a graduate student in "northern studies." I'm not saying these areas of inquiry cannot be rigorous, challenging, and even intellectually stimulating. But this is quite a far cry from higher education was meant to be. http://www.uas.alaska.edu/dir/fjwagner.html The certificate in Outdoor Skills and Leadership is an intensive nine-month humanities program that offers students the opportunity to better understand their relation to the natural world and to develop skills and characteristics that are essential to success as an individual, a group member, and a leader in outdoor and adventure settings. The program incorporates outdoor risk management, leadership skills, specific outdoor activity skills, and academic work. The combination of outdoor and academic courses is designed to develop not only knowledge but also personal traits such as self-reliance and good judgment. Students working to become outdoor professionals, wanting to achieve more general goals related to personal development and leadership, or wanting to better understand the natural world will benefit from the program. Note that "higher education" in other universities includes such things as being farm teams for developing future NFL and NBA players. Students in those programs often do little or no real academics, but rather just train for sports to please alumni and prepare for a career as professional athletes. Viewed in that light, I think this 34 credit certificate program is not such a bad thing.
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#280434 - 04/21/16 07:43 PM
Re: Alaskan Bear Attack
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It was a course in mountaineering - that clearly would be higher education, right?
That depends on the mountain!
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#280437 - 04/21/16 10:14 PM
Re: Alaskan Bear Attack
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On another note, I guess higher education has really changed. I noticed the professor is a professor of "outdoor studies." He only has a bachelor's degree, and is current a graduate student in "northern studies." I'm not saying these areas of inquiry cannot be rigorous, challenging, and even intellectually stimulating. But this is quite a far cry from higher education was meant to be. http://www.uas.alaska.edu/dir/fjwagner.htmlSomeone has got to keep those "beakers" alive when they are doing research on glaciers, mountainsides and the arctic either by leading them or training them.
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#280460 - 04/24/16 08:09 PM
Re: Alaskan Bear Attack
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Off topic.
Edited by chaosmagnet (05/01/16 09:09 PM)
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#280465 - 04/25/16 12:39 AM
Re: Alaskan Bear Attack
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Off topic.
Edited by chaosmagnet (05/01/16 09:09 PM)
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#280530 - 05/01/16 08:38 PM
Re: Alaskan Bear Attack
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Off topic.
Edited by chaosmagnet (05/01/16 09:09 PM)
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